80% 20% explained by an expert.

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by dvarapala

And nobody is afraid to tell the truth about COVID cases for fear of losing their jobs.

Cliffs? I’ll vomit if I watch Rachel Madcow.

I’ve heard she’s not biased at all in her “reporting.”

[Rikki Z-06]

Originally Posted by dvarapala

May I suggest Doug's Dating Thread?

[Little Red L98.]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

I have no real issue with those precautions. I do have issues with lockdowns, forced closing of most businesses, putting tens of millions of people out of work, cancelling or postponing most medical and dental care, and a long list of other “precautions” forced on us through executive orders in the name of safety for something that might (or might not) happen. Some of those things have very real negative consequences for peoples’ health and well-being, but nobody seems to give a rat’s ass about those.

I guess were in agreement more than I thought.

Originally Posted by VatorMan

I’d bet if the .Gov had put out reasonable accommodations for all businesses instead of the shotgun approach close everyone, you wouldn’t have the issues now.

Probably.

Originally Posted by dvarapala

May I suggest Doug's Dating Thread?

Watched an HBO show called Gary Goldman: The Great Depresh. Not exactly a gut buster but funny enough. Good insight into a person with severe depression who’s generally able to overcome it, talk about it openly and honestly, and get a laugh or two in the process. I understand some of his other material is a lot funnier.

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

Cliffs? I’ll vomit if I watch Rachel Madcow.

I’ve heard she’s not biased at all in her “reporting.”

But she agrees with you.

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by dvarapala

But she agrees with you.

About what? I’m not watching to find out.

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by Little Red L98.

Same thing. Free country. It’s a matter of choice that those who partake understand and accept the risk. Most take reasonable precaution. Sometimes they take others out. I don’t think anyone who got infected with COVID chose or accepted the risk. They got it from carelessness of themselves or others.

The virus mutates quickly and science hasn’t figured out how to control it. It’d help if the populace cooperated more.

There are VERY critical statistics, and I may be repeating something I posted elsewhere, that are NOT being considered and not part of the questioning process. What we don't know...

How many died AFTER the lockdown and never went back to work or shopping?
How many cases were people that washed vigorously and religiously and sanitized?
How many people had kids?
How many worked as essential workers?
How many were in high risk work (a friend that is an electrical inspector for the city encounters DOZENS of different people every day) vs people who worked with the same 4 or 5 people day in and day out?

There are dozens of questions that aren't asked and it is my FIRM belief it is because it REALLY doesn't matter. If they don't rank particular common threads or rank exposure risks, then they can make the risk as big as they want and it can't be disputed.

Again, at the risk of repetition...I work with 25 people and I go out t get lunch each day to about a half dozen places. I see the same people in my office and the same people in the drive thru. I have about a half dozen - dozen people I interact with on Facebook, many here and at the other place. I make an assumption that I am reasonably typical in that circle of communication, with each person I communicate with. Yet in that entire network of my 40 people, and each of my close friends 40 people, I think I know of ONE case that is a friend of a friend, that has had it and got over it and NO ONE that has died.

I began to wonder whether the number is even real. I mean seriously, it's not like they scroll names every evening of that day's victims and even if they did, NO ONE knows all of them. For all we know there could be 10,000 deaths. Who would EVER know?

Yeah it's sounds whacko, but what about this situation DOESN'T sound whacko?

Bill Gates the Microsoft guy - Vaccine expert
Greta Munchkin - Covid public speaker on CNN
Fauci, who hasn't had an actual patient in two decades, painting constant doom and gloom
The CHINESE selling US masks for THEIR virus
Centers for the Arts getting emergency COVID funds

I could go on and on, but this is theater of the absurd and to see EVERYTHING they have gotten WRONG, will not allow me to follow their instructions.

If I gave you directions to my house and you passed the same gas station 4 times, tell me you'll just go "Oh well, this is the way he said to go" and make another 5 loops around? I sure hope not. I hope you'd say Fk this, I'm not doing anything until someone gets their shit together.

If the captain of a sinking boat tells you the way to keep it afloat is to set it on fire...who the hell would listen? I hope NO ONE would.

[Raazor]

Agreeing with both sides is nothing more than being reasonable

[MadInNc]

Originally Posted by Raazor

Agreeing with both sides is nothing more than being reasonable

We know ya Buzz.

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by Raazor

Agreeing with both sides is nothing more than being reasonable

Reasonable.

[MadInNc]

Originally Posted by aerovette

Reasonable.

Can you do anything? Find your own “balance”, ya have to live w your choice.....

[VatorMan]

I do know that most of the clinics around here closed their doors. No procedures, etc.... so, no colonoscopies, no breast exams, no dermatology visits, no dentist.

Just like my chemo, the cure almost killed me, not the cancer.

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

About what? I’m not watching to find out.

All you need to do is read the title of the video.

[Little Red L98.]

Originally Posted by Raazor

Agreeing with both sides is nothing more than being reasonable

Originally Posted by aerovette

Reasonable.

Originally Posted by MadInNc

Can you do anything? Find your own “balance”, ya have to live w your choice.....

^^^^ This

Can you do anything? Yep. Take reasonable precautions. It’s not overly burdensome IMO. I’m lucky enough not to have missed work and no major impacts from the virus or lockdown. Inconvenienced a little, but nothing more.

YMMV

[Aerovette]

Lying to pump UP the numbers -

Lying to reduce the numbers -

[C3C7NIC]

Cases and hospitalizations on the rise since we entered phase 2. Interested to see where this is going.

People are morons. Never seen so many people not cover coughs, not wash hands etc.

Despite all the education on infection control, some dumb asses refuse to practice basic hygiene.

Had a “special” one this am. Pink and blue dyed hair type that was angry about wearing a mask .... as she proceeded to cough and made no attempt to cover. I’m just DONE with low information types.

[C3C7NIC]

Originally Posted by Little Red L98.

^^^^ This

Can you do anything? Yep. Take reasonable precautions. It’s not overly burdensome IMO. I’m lucky enough not to have missed work and no major impacts from the virus or lockdown. Inconvenienced a little, but nothing more.

YMMV

What people fail to accept is if they jump back into normalcy without being smart about it, we could easily be back where we were 2 months ago and the opening up could get reversed.

[JetMechZ16]

Originally Posted by C3C7NIC

Cases and hospitalizations on the rise since we entered phase 2. Interested to see where this is going.

People are morons. Never seen so many people not cover coughs, not wash hands etc.

Despite all the education on infection control, some dumb asses refuse to practice basic hygiene.

Had a “special” one this am. Pink and blue dyed hair type that was angry about wearing a mask .... as she proceeded to cough and made no attempt to cover. I’m just DONE with low information types.

You're leaving the Barn!?!?! NOooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by C3C7NIC

Cases and hospitalizations on the rise since we entered phase 2. Interested to see where this is going.

Total cases or case rate? One matters far more than the other, but the media and most people are looking at the wrong one.

[Little Red L98.]

Originally Posted by C3C7NIC

What people fail to accept is if they jump back into normalcy without being smart about it, we could easily be back where we were 2 months ago and the opening up could get reversed.

I am not a fear monger, nor am I more “afraid” than I ought to be, but a second wave is what I expect. A worser one than the first.

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by Little Red L98.

I am not a fear monger, nor am I more “afraid” than I ought to be, but a second wave is what I expect. A worser one than the first.

Why do you expect that? What's it based on? I'm genuinely curious what that's based on.