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Old 01-14-2021, 11:23am   #61
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Biden has explicitly SAID he will raise everyone's taxes by repealing the Trump tax cuts. That's not exactly a state secret.
I'm not saying Biden won't raise taxes. I'm saying there are people out there who vote for a candidate based on how it will affect them personally, as opposed to what is best for the country as a whole.
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Interesting. For a week or so I had the Parler logo as my picture. Nothing happened.

I did it just to annoy. It failed.
How many people know what the Parler logo even looks like? Until Amazon took them down I'd never even heard of them.
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I'm not saying Biden won't raise taxes. I'm saying there are people out there who vote for a candidate based on how it will affect them personally, as opposed to what is best for the country as a whole.
Can you understand that people might genuinely believe that the country is better off with:

~lower taxes

~fewer illegal aliens

~better trade deals like the USMCA vs. the giant sucking sound of NAFTA

~regulation cuts/red tape rollback to make it easier for business to do business here, vs. moving their manufacturing overseas

~fighting back against China in their quest to take over the US via economic warfare....the intellectual property theft, the commandeering of markets by flooding our country with their cheaply made, and cheap shit, devastating our manufacturing base? We have seen the problem with this first hand, discovering that most of our medicines and PPE are from China, and can be cut off at will. That's a security threat, so when Trump is trying to return manufacturing to America, some believe that's actually good for America.

There's other stuff, too, and then there's some things Trump did that I disagree with, that definitely did not improve the country, but you've got to believe that a significant portion of your countrymen believe that most of Trump's policies benefited America, and Americans.
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you've got to believe that a significant portion of your countrymen believe that most of Trump's policies benefited America, and Americans.
I really want to believe that, and I'm really trying, but it's tough when everything I see and hear is so polarized and partisan.
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I really want to believe that, and I'm really trying, but it's tough when everything I see and hear is so polarized and partisan.
Stop watching/listening to mainstream media. All the media has done the past 5 years is spout "Orange Man Bad", twist everything Trump has said, and fed everyone with nothing but bullshit.
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All the media has done the past 5 years is spout "Orange Man Bad", twist everything Trump has said, and fed everyone with nothing but bullshit.
only people caught up in a cult would believe this "news" at face value.
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I really want to believe that, and I'm really trying, but it's tough when everything I see and hear is so polarized and partisan.
Try this simple trick. Think back. For 3 years, you heard the steady drumbeat, every day, the shreiking, that Trump was a Russian agent, Putin's puppet, a Russian stooge, bought off by Russia. What happened? After 3 exhaustive years of investigation, we found out that that wasn't true at all. We found out that the whole thing was based on a lie, the Hillary/DNC paid for Piss Dossier, put together by Christopher Steele and FusionGPS, in conjunction with Perkins Coie, law firm of choice for the Democrats.

All that anger. All that in your face shouting.....Trump is a Russian agent! Muh Russian kuhlooooosian! And then it all fizzled out. We found out it was all a lie. Was there suddenly a huge apology tour by the media and others, to admit they were wrong? Was the MSM suddenly thankful to learn that our president was NOT, in fact, a Russian stooge? No. They just quietly dropped the matter and went back to.....but Trump's taxes!

This right here should tell you that the MSM, Hollywood, and other societal influencers, aren't dealing straight with you. They're shaping narratives, and when one narrative falls apart, there's no apology, no retractions, just on to the next narrative.

My assertion here is easy to check out. You remember the muh kuhlooooosian hysteria. You don't remember that massive sigh of relief, the massive apologies from all those reporters for being dead wrong because.....they're not there to give you the facts as they see them, they're there to feed you propaganda.
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Oh, and when you guys do get around to posting that specific evidence, you might wanna share that info with the Republican Minority Leader as well - seems he's being kept in the dark somehow.



Or maybe Kevin McCarthy is an "asshole libtard?"
Here's a new one I didn't see until today. A BLM guy in the Capitol and egging on the crowd has been arrested and charged:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lef...n-capitol-riot

How many dozen articles do I have to produce to convince you it wasn't just Trump supporters?
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Here's a new one I didn't see until today. A BLM guy in the Capitol and egging on the crowd has been arrested and charged:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lef...n-capitol-riot

How many dozen articles do I have to produce to convince you it wasn't just Trump supporters?
6,454,347 articles.
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I saw a good one today. I am aware that there are lunatics on both sides, but this is where fact checking is needed and not in the bias form it currently functions in.

Some loon said Viking guy is Pelosi's grandson.
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But #killtrump was and is active on Twitter. What a bunch of ****ing ****s.
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I saw a good one today. I am aware that there are lunatics on both sides, but this is where fact checking is needed and not in the bias form it currently functions in.

Some loon said Viking guy is Pelosi's grandson.
If they'd said pocahontas' son then maybe I'd believe it...
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Here's a new one I didn't see until today. A BLM guy in the Capitol and egging on the crowd has been arrested and charged:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lef...n-capitol-riot

How many dozen articles do I have to produce to convince you it wasn't just Trump supporters?
Are you attempting to suggest you've already produced "dozens" of such articles?

From the article you just cited:

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Sullivan, the founder of a Utah-based group called Insurgence USA, told Fox News last Thursday that he’d entered the besieged Capitol to "document" what was going on and to dispute "this narrative going around" that Antifa instigators had played a role in the riot.
So yeah, even this left-wing radical knows that ANTIFA wasn't involved.
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Are you attempting to suggest you've already produced "dozens" of such articles?

From the article you just cited:



So yeah, even this left-wing radical knows that ANTIFA wasn't involved.
Saying antifa was involved is a ***** move to cover their soon-to-be-jailed-if-not-already dumbasses.
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Are you attempting to suggest you've already produced "dozens" of such articles?
Personally, I have not. But lots of them have been posted on the board.

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So yeah, even this left-wing radical knows that ANTIFA wasn't involved.
See, there you go, denial. What a ****ing piss poor attempt at an excuse to be there. But let's think about this for a second: how would he know that the narrative WAS GOING TO GO AROUND after the riot that ANTIFA was there? Can the guy foresee the future? Can he give me the MegaMillions numbers for the next drawing?

His actions caught on video also support the idea that he was there to cause chaos, but I'm sure you didn't bother to watch it, as that would be detrimental to your desired position.

It also matters not to me "why" he was there. If he was there illegally, he is just as guilty as everyone else there. In other words, this guy doesn't have a leg to stand on, and neither do you.
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Personally, I have not. But lots of them have been posted on the board.
And yet nobody can seem to provide a link to these forum posts. 🤔
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And yet nobody can seem to provide a link to these forum posts. 🤔
We try our best to keep in step with the new administration. It's better for us all and you too will assimilate soon enough.
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And yet nobody can seem to provide a link to these forum posts. 🤔
Because it's not worth the effort, as shown just above. I provide you with a link, you dismiss it, despite the FACT the guy is BLM, AND he was ARRESTED AND CHARGED, so that means there is hard evidence he was there committing illegal acts. Even an idiot knows you have to stop banging your head against the wall to get the feel good.
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Check this bullshit. Local news station post on FB...

Believe the election was rigged? How did you fall for the big lie? On #HouNewsmakers the truth about conspiracy theories Sunday morning at 10:30.
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Check this bullshit. Local news station post on FB...

Believe the election was rigged? How did you fall for the big lie? On #HouNewsmakers the truth about conspiracy theories Sunday morning at 10:30.
I'm guessing that "the big lie" is that the election was rigged. Fakebook would have you believe the election was fair and honest.
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