Should I be overly concerned?

[JetMechZ16]

Originally Posted by C3C7NIC

I am doing hundreds of virtual visits.


We are very clear, unless>

Fever > 102 for 3 days or more
Respiratory DISTRESS (not bad cough or chest tightness) but true shortness of breath/wheezing/dizziness


Do not go to ER. Treat at home.


Hope you have someone to help with your at risk family members


Sorry Areovette. Lots of people are going to find themselves in this situation.

If all that can be done is to treat at home and we're not even contemplating being able to reduce the number of infected, we're just slowing the time it takes to infect everyone. What good is the isolation?

Why are they not publishing any numbers about severely infected that have recovered?

I want to see numbers/stats that are apples to apples comparisons. Not conjecture or comparisons to the flu when the flu stats aren't based on confirmed cases, they are based on reported cases.

Seems to me that the medical community isn't overwhelmed with Corona cases but with morons that think they have it.

[bill_daniels]

Jeff,

I'm in a similar situation, taking care of an elderly parent with medical problems, at home. You don't want to get sick, because you don't want to give it to your parents, and you don't want to be down yourself because somebody has to look after them. Having said that, I don't think you qualify, under any of the announced thresholds, for testing.

My advice is, just take care of yourself and be mindful about hand washing, touching your face, etc. I know when I get home, the first thing I do is go to the sink and wash my hands, leaving some soapy water on the tap to kill anything I might have left on it.



Personally, I'm trying to be careful and mindful, but life has to go on. A while back, I stocked up on aspirin, ibuprofen, and got a few boxes of cold and flu tablets, which seems to be the only thing you can do besides sleeping and eating well to fight off the Wu flu or regular ol' seasonal crud. If you need some oft that, I've got a little extra I can run over to you, or if you need food delivery, whatever.

[Egnalf]

Originally Posted by JetMechZ16

If all that can be done is to treat at home and we're not even contemplating being able to reduce the number of infected, we're just slowing the time it takes to infect everyone. What good is the isolation?

Why are they not publishing any numbers about severely infected that have recovered?

I want to see numbers/stats that are apples to apples comparisons. Not conjecture or comparisons to the flu when the flu stats aren't based on confirmed cases, they are based on reported cases.

Seems to me that the medical community isn't overwhelmed with Corona cases but with morons that think they have it.

Two part answer to the bolded....They know that many healthy people can fight it off, and they are trying to avoid panic at the hospitals like happened elsewhere.

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by snide

Bad news, Aero. You're gonna die.

I may as well spend all my savings. What does a Happy Meal go for these days?

[C3C7NIC]

Originally Posted by JetMechZ16

If all that can be done is to treat at home and we're not even contemplating being able to reduce the number of infected, we're just slowing the time it takes to infect everyone. What good is the isolation?

Why are they not publishing any numbers about severely infected that have recovered?

I want to see numbers/stats that are apples to apples comparisons. Not conjecture or comparisons to the flu when the flu stats aren't based on confirmed cases, they are based on reported cases.

Seems to me that the medical community isn't overwhelmed with Corona cases but with morons that think they have it.

I have answered this many times, just read the threads. <face palm>


CLIFFS: people that do not feel sick must also isolate because many young, healthy, asymptomatic people are spreading this.


Unlike the flu, where you feel sick, AND you are contagious.


Your lungs fill pneumonia/fluid and you drown in said fluids, research ARDS: With COVID this can occur rapidly, over 24 hours or slowly over 14 days. In case you have not had the pleasure of witnessing, here you go.

https://youtu.be/5OR-0zuw9v0

[JetMechZ16]

Originally Posted by C3C7NIC

I have answered this many times, just read the threads. <face palm>


CLIFFS: people that do not feel sick must also isolate because many young, healthy, asymptomatic people are spreading this.


Unlike the flu, where you feel sick, AND you are contagious.


Your lungs fill pneumonia/fluid and you drown in said fluids, research ARDS: With COVID this can occur rapidly, over 24 hours or slowly over 14 days. In case you have not had the pleasure of witnessing, here you go.

Flattening the curve doesn't change the total numbers within it. Slowing the virus only prolongs how long it will take to infect the same number. Containment isn't an option anymore.

You tell me what types of things are you overwhelmed with at work right now? It's not the number of Covid19 cases is it?

Pretty soon if not already you'll be complaining about the lack of supplies. Nobody producing those supplies will not help you.

You guys are overwhelmed with the panic, not the cases.


Or maybe I'm wrong

[Mike Mercury]

there is a non-CV flu bug going around as well; has been since mid Jan.

That's why you must go through a Q&A when requesting to be CV tested; test kits still in limited supply. The Q&A is supposed to differentiate between the typical flu going around and CV.

[Raazor]

Originally Posted by C3C7NIC

For what internet advice is worth.


Patient of mine as well as staff have tested positive that had NO fever or ANY symptoms! This is not suspicion it has been confirmed thousands of times.

You have no choice but to care for your parents, stay in another room and do all the things you have heard, especially if you food prep, dispense meds to them, help with bathing etc....

[Mike Mercury]

Originally Posted by C3C7NIC

CLIFFS: people that do not feel sick must also isolate because many young, healthy, asymptomatic people are spreading this.


Unlike the flu, where you feel sick, AND you are contagious.

this is what the media does not bother to mention; it does not help their "hype":

* there will be a group that contract a different flu strain, not CV. An attempt will be made early on to determine if it is CV flu or not CV flu (as to not waste a valuable test kit on a patient).

* there will be a group that contract CV and never show any symptoms; though they can pass it on to others.

* there will be a group that contract CV and get cold-like symptoms. The are not likely to miss work, nor get CV tested either; though they can pass it on to others.

* there will be a group that contract CV and have flu like symptoms. They may miss a day or two of work like any typical flu season... but they may or may not ever be tested for CV; they can also pass it on to others.

* there will be a group that contract CV and become very ill; requiring hospital stay. Sadly, some of this group may die from it.

Currently, the confirmed CV cases vs confirmed CV deaths is running 4.4% worldwide. A typical US flu season death rate is 1.5%.

[Raazor]

*100.4

[Mike Mercury]

Originally Posted by Raazor

*100.4

call your GP and ask if you can be CV tested.

[dvarapala]

FWIW, at my office they send you home if your temp is > 100.

[mrvette]

Wife's 90 y/o mom is about 6' from me, weezing away in wife's loungs chair, wife across the room on sofa, staring at boring reruns on TV.....

krazy boredom, even went out a trimmed the driveway a bit, and blew it down a bit, to make noise in response to the neighbor doing engine/yard work.....

yawn......went to the drug store and picked up some pictures they printed on photo paper for me/us.....GREAT pix, FAR better than any printer we have.....

my newest grandson in a fat T shirt asking for FOOD!!!!

but her mom is in weezing/piss poor respiratory shape, but been like this a quite a few months...... nurse supposed to stop by maybe today, probably tmrw.....

[Raazor]

Originally Posted by Mike Mercury

call your GP and ask if you can be CV tested.

I've got 36 liters of boxed wine.... I'm good

[C3C7NIC]

Originally Posted by Raazor

*100.4

Depending on their protocol you may not qualify for testing. In MOST cases, unless high risk and showing decline or respiratory distress, they may have you stay home.


I hope they get the rapid test soon!

[C3C7NIC]

Originally Posted by JetMechZ16

Flattening the curve doesn't change the total numbers within it. Slowing the virus only prolongs how long it will take to infect the same number. Containment isn't an option anymore.

You tell me what types of things are you overwhelmed with at work right now? It's not the number of Covid19 cases is it?

Pretty soon if not already you'll be complaining about the lack of supplies. Nobody producing those supplies will not help you.

You guys are overwhelmed with the panic, not the cases.


Or maybe I'm wrong

Flattening the curve has nothing to do witj decreasing total numbers. Whom said it did?

We are inundated with all the above, positive cases, critically ill and trying to decide what to do with those critically
ill with non COVID related illness to keep tj
From getting exposed/infected.


Stick to starting fires Jet, I’m just trying to put some out and trying to make sure the extinguishers are full when the fire explodes.

[JetMechZ16]

Originally Posted by C3C7NIC

Flattening the curve has nothing to do witj decreasing total numbers. Whom said it did?

We are inundated with all the above, positive cases, critically ill and trying to decide what to do with those critically
ill with non COVID related illness to keep tj
From getting exposed/infected.


Stick to starting fires Jet, I’m just trying to put some out and trying to make sure the extinguishers are full when the fire explodes.

I don't start fires, and I don't appreciate the implication.

[C3C7NIC]

Originally Posted by JetMechZ16

I don't start fires, and I don't appreciate the implication.

Take a chill pill pal. What are you upset I implied?


Thought that was a running joke with you. Didn’t know it was a touchy subject.


Everything I said is still applicable about me putting out fires.

[JetMechZ16]

Originally Posted by C3C7NIC

Take a chill pill pal. What are you upset I implied?


Thought that was a running joke with you. Didn’t know it was a touchy subject.


Everything I said is still applicable about me putting out fires.

I haven't heard a thing from any medical professional that the actions they are taking will save lives. Can you make that statement? If so then I will agree that these efforts could be worthwhile. If they are simply delaying the inevitable at the expense of people later down the road then It's not worth the damage being done.

As far as the implication about me starting fires I've started to tire of it. My plant had an explosion roughly 2 years ago. Not in my dept. but it did injure some people and shut us down for a long time.

Sometimes I'm not in a joking mood, today seems to be one of those days. Don't mind my moment of sensitivity, it'll pass.

Go do what you do best and I wish you luck.

[snide]

Originally Posted by JetMechZ16

Sometimes I'm not in a joking mood, today seems to be one of those days.

Heavy flow day?