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Old 07-01-2020, 6:57pm   #41
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And then there's the whole "intubation is the answer" and "toss them in a nursing home" thing.
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Come on Stev~E, you seem to be a pretty smart guy. You trly cannot tell me that if 2 people have masks on that does not decrease the viral shed/transmission!

So If I invited you to go help me care for a patient with COVID, since you are deeming masks utterly useless, I'l let you just go commando.
5 days of hydrochloroquine, azithromycin, and zinc....then send 'em home,
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5 days of hydrochloroquine, azithromycin, and zinc....then send 'em home,
Yeah, well, we all know what the "experts" think about that, right? But $2300/treatment Remdesivir That Fauci is pushing? It works! Trust him, he's fully invested in the company that makes it. But $0.30/pill HCQ? It'll kill ya!
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Iím absolutely sure Iíve worn respirators (not paper or cloth masks, but actual respirators) more than anybody here. Iíve gone in a room with enough airborne plutonium to kill you if you took two breaths without a supplied air suit. In deciding what PPE is appropriate for a hazard we use whatís called a graded approach. We donít require respirators ďjust in caseĒ or for hazards with almost no chance of happening. I hate hearing someone say ďyou canít be too safeĒ because thatís absolutely untrue.

When do we get to stop wearing masks for this virus? Once a vaccine exists and 40% of the population donít get it, then what? What if no effective vaccine exists for another 2 years, do we wear masks (and social distance, and drive people and businesses bankrupt, etc, etc, etc) for years?

We flattened the curve. In fact, there was no curve in most of the country to flatten. Hospitals are begging people to come in because weíve scared or banned people from getting needed healthcare. This virus is real. Our reaction to it has been absurd from day 1.

Well, now that we have let a SARS virus infecting America, we now, like ASIA, may have to wear masks as a new norm, IN CERTAIN scenarios and counties/areas where COVID is prevalent.

You really cannot compare radiation to virus. Radiation does not use our bodies as a portal to "infect" others. I won't claim to be an expert on radiation, that's your game, but I sure as hell know a lot about infection control.

If your county has no cases, yea, I think that having mandatory mask regulations are silly. BUT, in cities where that is NOT the case, like here, where we are have 500+ cases a day and my ICU beds are filling up AGAIN..... wear the mother F'ing mask before you kill more innocent people.

Screw all the political talk surrounding this, I don't give a chit about politics, I care about innocent lives being lost.
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Yeah, well, we all know what the "experts" think about that, right? But $2300/treatment Remdesivir That Fauci is pushing? It works! Trust him, he's fully invested in the company that makes it. But $0.30/pill HCQ? It'll kill ya!
See, this is exactly what I am talking about.

Exactly how many people have you treated for COVID to base your opinions on?

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5 days of hydrochloroquine, azithromycin, and zinc....then send 'em home,
These I feel are helpful in the very early stages of the illness. ALL of our patients that made the nasty turn for the worse, once they got to that point of coming to the ER and being admitted, none of the above showed ANY efficacy, so it was removed from our hospitals protocol, and we are a multi state facility.

Some studies do show that this is effective PRE illness as a preventative.

I am taking high dose c/zinc daily.
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Most likely. Bill Gates involved? Fauci? I'm out.

And we're not complaining about wearing a mask, we are pointing out that it's a social engineering exercise. If a "mask" is a scarf, baklava, or any other non-corona-virus-certified mask (as is almost anything anyone can get their hands on) then it's completely pointless and probably counterproductive.
Baklava is a Greek dessert item. I think the word you seek is balaclava. If you wish to be considered a serious researcher and not a misinformed citizen at least get your terminology straight.
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It is very interesting to see the difference in views between medical and non medical staff.
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Baklava is a Greek dessert item. I think the word you seek is balaclava. If you wish to be considered a serious researcher and not a misinformed citizen at least get your terminology straight.
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OK, you got me there on an auto-correct. Good job. Serious researcher? I think most people here on this forum know that I don't just pull shit out of my proverbial ass, but hey, whatever.
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See, this is exactly what I am talking about.

Exactly how many people have you treated for COVID to base your opinions on?

You so easily dismiss.

So when this happens, people refusing to get the Bill Gates vaccine, you're going to just look down on them as some sort of yokels or something? I'm not anti-vacc, it's just that he has a track record. And it's frankly terrifying.

I'm posting links from both "left" and "right" sites so I don't get baklava on my balaclava.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bill-...b69358ef8a9803

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-i...-idUSKBN15N13K

right-wing youtube

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You so easily dismiss.
Come again?
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OK, you got me there on an auto-correct. Good job. Serious researcher? I think most people here on this forum know that I don't just pull shit out of my proverbial ass, but hey, whatever.
Your choice of wording, syntax and punctuation are the only criteria we who read your (or anyone's) posts have to judge the "worth" of your words so yes, be certain your posting says what you want it to. Just like the shallow fools who insist on "cliffs" because they are too lazy to truly invest in sharing here, blaming auto correct is shallow defense. Proof your postings and I for one will consider your musings more seriously.
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It is very interesting to see the difference in views between medical and non medical staff.
Nailed it.


Like I said, like old fat guys on their couch, arm chair quarterbacking the super bowl players.

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Your choice of wording, syntax and punctuation are the only criteria we who read your (or anyone's) posts have to judge the "worth" of your words so yes, be certain your posting says what you want it to. Just like the shallow fools who insist on "cliffs" because they are too lazy to truly invest in sharing here, blaming auto correct is shallow defense. Proof your postings and I for one will consider your musings more seriously.

Cliffs?
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Come again?
You. So. Easily. Dismiss.

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See, this is exactly what I am talking about.

Exactly how many people have you treated for COVID to base your opinions on?
I don't have to treat a single one to speak to this issue. It's kinda funny how anyone would even assume that was a prerequisite. I don't really care much, this is but a tiny forum.
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It is very interesting to see the difference in views between medical and non medical staff.
The amazing thing is they are also constitutional law experts.
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The amazing thing is they are also constitutional law experts.
Ah, see? This is exactly why grandma is going to die because you're not wearing that mask. She knows that the Constitution and all conjugates have a capital C.
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Well, that is a complete jackass comparison, you can see fire jack hole. You know, smoke/fire and all.


I know you work in a facility that makes COVID tests, they have any that let those infected glow green or something so we all know???
Your comparison is no different. I can SEE the person is in the ICU and you already told me we were going in.
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Ah, see? This is exactly why grandma is going to die because you're not wearing that mask. She knows that the Constitution and all conjugates have a capital C.
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