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Old 03-21-2020, 4:12pm   #15881
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Still waiting on Murray to answer this. Lowering all speed limits 90% would absolutely save tens of thousands of lives every year. Why don’t we do that? Do people killed in car crashes count less than people killed by a virus?

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There’s several steps you can take to decrease the odds of a vehicle death.

The world is currently doing that regarding the virus.
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The little people overreacting. Over 330 million people in the US and how many have died from it? Over 5.5 billion in the world and how many have died from it?
This thing is just getting started. A lot more people are going to die before it's all over - and many of those deaths would have been avoidable if we didn't overload our healthcare system.
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I totally understand the hospitals an infrastructure. It is the lack of consumables, and the lack of availability, that I don't understand.
If you're talking about PPE like masks and such, a lot of that stuff comes from China - the same China that was completely shut down for over 2 months and is now consuming all their masks and equipment internally rather than exporting it to the rest of the world.
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Somebody will die of the corona virus in Canada six month from now and Murrat will jump in his closet with a can of lysol and a mask. In the meantime over a thousand people will die of a heart attack and another 500 of a car accident.

Don't eat and take the risk of a heart attack, and don't drive and take the risk of getting killed.
No need to be a dick.

So John, what number of deaths do you think it’s acceptable for today’s measures?

What ever number you pick it sounds like you think it’ll stop the day the measures are in place.

You do know that if they wait until then, it’s way too late.
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I'm being devil's advocate here BUT imagine if the death of someone in a car accident meant that three other people who they met with a few days ago, also would die in a car wreck, I think you could better appreciate the message.

That being said, I do think it is an over reaction.

I had two questions earlier in this thread that went unaddressed.

1. Nicole, what are you actually seeing? Extended hours, exhausted medical staff, jammed hospitals but what is the story? False alarms, sniffles, alergies, COVID?

2. If, as an non-human virus, we have no inherent antibodies, wouldn't it be deadly to everyone and secondly, how are people coming out the other side of this?

Added: Minimal testing and minimal positives earlier vs thousands of tests and thousands of positives now, does NOT indicate a rise in infection. It represent only more testing. If 80% of the population was infected and only 5% of them were tested, testing 50% of the people does NOT change the 80% number...but it sure makes sensational news.

1. Nicole, what are you actually seeing? Extended hours, exhausted medical staff, jammed hospitals but what is the story? False alarms, sniffles, alergies, COVID?

Yes to ALL of the above questions, only false alarms are people in the public with fear driven idiocity. I am working form home doing virtual visits, which has been super helpful to weed out many of the cases that just need education and told to CHILL out, also allows many to get treatment at home and avoid exposure to potentially ill contacts

2. If, as an non-human virus, we have no inherent antibodies, wouldn't it be deadly to everyone and secondly, how are people coming out the other side of this?

mCorona viruses works via RNA, not DNA, we do not have an immunity to this as a "known" virus, however, humans have immunity to many things that are novel.

if you are SUPER bored this will help clear it up


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Still waiting on Murray to answer this. Lowering all speed limits 90% would absolutely save tens of thousands of lives every year. Why don’t we do that? Do people killed in car crashes count less than people killed by a virus?

People getting a vaccine would save thousands of lives too, but how many people still don't vaccinate?

I see your point, but apples meet oranges.


Slippery argument, how many peoples lives would be saved if we took away guns> not going there.

You do understand that people were left to die because there are not enough resources to treat them, have you seen the obituaries in Italy? This is NOT the FLU, people do not die in these numbers in this short of time from any FLU we have seen since I was born.
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People getting a vaccine would save thousands of lives too, but how many people still don't vaccinate?

I see your point, but apples meet oranges.


Slippery argument, how many peoples lives would be saved if we took away guns> not going there.

You do understand that people were left to die because there are not enough resources to treat them, have you seen the obituaries in Italy? This is NOT the FLU, people do not die in these numbers in this short of time from any FLU we have seen since I was born.
Italy has been having death rates of 16,000 to 25,000 per year from the Flu for the last several years. They have a very old population, among other contributing factors. Here's a study for you:

https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S...328-5/fulltext
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They have opened a Covid-19 screening and treatment facility in a closed down dock-in-the-box here. A tent has been set up in the parking lot for screening.
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They have opened a Covid-19 screening and treatment facility in a closed down dock-in-the-box here. A tent has been set up in the parking lot for screening.
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