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Old 01-19-2024, 1:56pm   #21
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Those don't really seal that good.
Don’t think it matters.
I use them and have them on currently.
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Yes stupid and simple if you don't care about how it looks. One of these is in the laundry room the other my office. Both places we're likely installing built in's. I will make an access panel work if it's my last resort. But we get 1 or 2 hard freezes a year, I think there's likely a simpler solution here. I'm just surprised there isn't one sold.
I don't understand why you're trying to reinvent the wheel here. Why not just use the same heating tape Aero used? Whatever you use, you'll have to run an extension cord out to the faucet, so who cares whether it's a bird bath heater, or something specifically intended to heat outdoor pipes? We know there's no fire danger there, we know it works, because he went out in the freezing weather to check the pipe temperature. It's a proven solution, and it didn't effect the black pipe insulation, so adding a faucet cover over that shouldn't be an issue either. I suspect the styrofoam faucet covers (not heated) would probably work, if incorporated with other insulation, not as stand alone protection. It's all about R value.
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That's what I used. Clearly the house isn't putting off much heat in those corners.
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I don't understand why you're trying to reinvent the wheel here. Why not just use the same heating tape Aero used? Whatever you use, you'll have to run an extension cord out to the faucet, so who cares whether it's a bird bath heater, or something specifically intended to heat outdoor pipes? We know there's no fire danger there, we know it works, because he went out in the freezing weather to check the pipe temperature. It's a proven solution, and it didn't effect the black pipe insulation, so adding a faucet cover over that shouldn't be an issue either. I suspect the styrofoam faucet covers (not heated) would probably work, if incorporated with other insulation, not as stand alone protection. It's all about R value.
The issue with the pipe wrap. It has to be evenly spaced and cannot cross over itself. Given how small the spigot is that's sticking out of the wall, I don't have much pipe to wrap (nor do I really want to wrap and un-wrap just to get access to the spigot), so I think I'd have to install it on the inside of a box/insulation in order to get enough heat tape inside the insulated area, not to mention I believe 6' is the shortest run of the wrap you can use, so I'd have to have a box big enough to consume 6' of evenly spaced heat tape.

I like that bird bath idea, I think i'll give it a try.
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The issue with the pipe wrap. It has to be evenly spaced and cannot cross over itself. Given how small the spigot is that's sticking out of the wall, I don't have much pipe to wrap (nor do I really want to wrap and un-wrap just to get access to the spigot), so I think I'd have to install it on the inside of a box/insulation in order to get enough heat tape inside the insulated area, not to mention I believe 6' is the shortest run of the wrap you can use, so I'd have to have a box big enough to consume 6' of evenly spaced heat tape.

I like that bird bath idea, I think i'll give it a try.

You might want to rethink this most items that keep water unfrozen will cut off when dry. I have used the heating pads with great success and I will guarantee there is a dollar store close by.
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This would be the right way to do it but you need access to the pipes. We use them up here mainly for rural applications where there's septic drains that can freeze up.
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The issue with the pipe wrap. It has to be evenly spaced and cannot cross over itself. Given how small the spigot is that's sticking out of the wall, I don't have much pipe to wrap (nor do I really want to wrap and un-wrap just to get access to the spigot), so I think I'd have to install it on the inside of a box/insulation in order to get enough heat tape inside the insulated area, not to mention I believe 6' is the shortest run of the wrap you can use, so I'd have to have a box big enough to consume 6' of evenly spaced heat tape.

I like that bird bath idea, I think i'll give it a try.
I'm not sure where you heard that. Mine crosses over. The diagram/instructions show it criss-crossing a shutoff valve.



Also, it shuts off at 50 degrees so it should never heat beyond that.

The length I bought was three feet of heated portion and a 24 inch lead.

It can be wrapped so you can still use the faucet. The main thing is to have the thermostat ( I think it's a klixon myself) touching the cold surface. The rest could hang free. It will heat, but only until the thermostat sees 50.

One wrap around and the rest balled up under the foam cup/cover until you need to run water. Pull off the cover and let the heat strip hang while using the hose.
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When we lived in NH I'd shut of the water to the front and back spigots and let them drain. Then wrap them in bubble wrap. Never had a problem.
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Actually the ideal setup (I had in my last house and will in the new one)
PEX manifold. Each fixture has its own shut off at the manifold.
When it's extreme cold just shut down and drain. Done.
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When we lived in NH I'd shut of the water to the front and back spigots and let them drain. Then wrap them in bubble wrap. Never had a problem.
We went through all that on the other thread. It's a standard part of winterizing around here.

I think it's this one: https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/...d.php?t=135812
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Go to Lowes, purchase a heat lamp, put a tarp around the lamp like a little tent and instant heat. It keeps chicks and such warm.
They sell them with the clamp on type funnel shaped holder. The lamps are good for 5000 hours. Easy to set up easy to take down.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Woods-300-W...ard/5000375623

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Attaching a tarp to the side of the house is not real easy. I also think the goal was to use the faucet with something addressing the freeze, still in place.
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I have a similar situation. I been thinking of this.

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The Chinks aren't even trying anymore. Just throw some random letters together for a brand name.

I'm sure the product is of the highest quality though.
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The Chinks aren't even trying anymore. Just throw some random letters together for a brand name.

I'm sure the product is of the highest quality though.

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Go to Lowes, purchase a heat lamp, put a tarp around the lamp like a little tent and instant heat. It keeps chicks and such warm.
They sell them with the clamp on type funnel shaped holder. The lamps are good for 5000 hours. Easy to set up easy to take down.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Woods-300-W...ard/5000375623

https://www.lowes.com/pd/GE-250-Watt...ulb/1000438359
If the tarp gets blown and then contacts the heat lamp, that will cause a fire, and it was gusting in the 20mph range during our deep freeze.
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I use these here in the frozen prairie; of course, they're covering what are supposed to be "freeze-proof" spigots. Never had an issue; -15 here this week.
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I have one spigot at my house here, where I have seen -16F. I told the plumber to install the spigot on the inside of my garage. That dumb bastard was confused as hell, trying to install a 12" no-freeze that he had in his truck. I actually had to buy a hose valve and thread-on anti-siphon valve for him to install.
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