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Old 09-08-2012, 2:51pm   #81
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Jon, we've nowhere near reached the bottom of our pit of depravity.....
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Old 09-08-2012, 3:36pm   #82
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Jon, we've nowhere near reached the bottom of our pit of depravity.....
What was I thinking................
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Jon, we've nowhere near reached the bottom of our pit of depravity.....
First one to reach the bottom cleans the drain!!!!
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First one to reach the bottom cleans the drain!!!!
That's a deal but, if there is a drain then we have even farther to go.
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That's a deal but, if there is a drain then we have even farther to go.
Through the drain, into the sewer, and deep into the bowels of the earth we shall trek....
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Through the drain, into the sewer, and deep into the bowels of the earth we shall trek....
I'm just glad someone is finally offering to clean my drain
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Out of curiosity, why do you say that?

They are basically track cars right out of the box. It's what they were made for.



I know they are, but I do my racing on the street. It's a good choice. I just wouldn't want to risk tearing it up. But that's just me, I'm not a racer. If I were, i'm sure I would have one for that purpose as well.
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I know they are, but I do my racing on the street. It's a good choice. I just wouldn't want to risk tearing it up. But that's just me, I'm not a racer. If I were, i'm sure I would have one for that purpose as well.
It's had a rough life already and what I have learned is that pretty much anything I break can be fixed.... better than it was.


I will say that C4 prices are bad. C5 prices are insane. I'm building up my parts inventory and just...

The list of parts that I am planning on adding to the C5 to get it ready over the winter looks something like this:

T1 Sway Bars
T1 Sachs shocks
Lap-sub belt mounts - B-K, Hardbar?
Front Brakes - AP T1? Wilwood W6A?
Brake lines
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4? 6? point rollbar
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Brake Fluid
Tow Hooks
SKF HD bearings/ARP studs
Radiator with EOC
18x10 Rear Z06 wheels on all 4
Tires - Goodyear R? Scrubs?


I shudder when I see the price. ...and it will still be slower than the C4.
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It's had a rough life already and what I have learned is that pretty much anything I break can be fixed.... better than it was.


I will say that C4 prices are bad. C5 prices are insane. I'm building up my parts inventory and just...

The list of parts that I am planning on adding to the C5 to get it ready over the winter looks something like this:

T1 Sway Bars
T1 Sachs shocks
Lap-sub belt mounts - B-K, Hardbar?
Front Brakes - AP T1? Wilwood W6A?
Brake lines
Harnesses
Harness hardware
4? 6? point rollbar
Rear Rotors
Rear Pads
Brake Fluid
Tow Hooks
SKF HD bearings/ARP studs
Radiator with EOC
18x10 Rear Z06 wheels on all 4
Tires - Goodyear R? Scrubs?


I shudder when I see the price. ...and it will still be slower than the C4.
Wow, good luck and keep us posted on the progress.
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The deed is done.

Her last pictures as mine...






...and with her new (old) owners. Nice truck BTW.

I couldn't stand to watch it drive away with someone else, but if anybody else has to have it, I'm glad it's you guys.




Bought the first parts for the 02Z already. If you're going to do it... do it right.

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There's always that icy feeling in the pit of your stomach when a long term car rides off with it's new owners........
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There's always that icy feeling in the pit of your stomach when a long term car rides off with it's new owners........
I felt that way a couple of times when I was younger and had lots of custom work in my rides, but I'm a car trading whore nowadays. got about as much attachment to my junk as a used car dealer. Well, I'm somewhat fond of my C6 because it hurt me to buy it and I can't go out and get another one anytime I want, but for regularly priced cars...
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ooohhh $$$ AP $$$

nice.
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Bought the first parts for the 02Z already. If you're going to do it... do it right.

Very nice. A couple of years ago we were at the Texas Motor Speedway and were watching the Vettes running on the infield road course. A C5 over heated his rear brakes and as he slowed down to come off the course his RR burst into flames. It was so hot the fire extinguishers couldn't stop it from burning. They did get it out but not before wrecking the rear end. I always figured good brakes are a must after that.
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ooohhh $$$ AP $$$

nice.
I managed to get a smokin' deal on a set that is less than a year old. I was originally going to go with the exact same Wilwoods that I had on the '96.

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I felt that way a couple of times when I was younger and had lots of custom work in my rides, but I'm a car trading whore nowadays. got about as much attachment to my junk as a used car dealer. Well, I'm somewhat fond of my C6 because it hurt me to buy it and I can't go out and get another one anytime I want, but for regularly priced cars...
I don't get attached to most cars either. If someone offered me a fair price, I'd sell pretty much any of them. This 1 was different simply because it is such a unique car. It is safe to say that you will not ever see another like it. When you pull into a paddock with it, people look. In a place full of $$$$ cars, that isn't easy to do, especially with an old C4 Corvette. On top of that it is an absolute blast to drive. It is loud, obnoxious, brutally rough, and unforgiving... exactly like it should be.

I have to admit that there was also a big satisfaction of taking a Corvette which doesn't usually get a lot of respect and outrunning some of today's best with it. Definitely surprised people to look back and see the old C4 gaining on them.

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Very nice. A couple of years ago we were at the Texas Motor Speedway and were watching the Vettes running on the infield road course. A C5 over heated his rear brakes and as he slowed down to come off the course his RR burst into flames. It was so hot the fire extinguishers couldn't stop it from burning. They did get it out but not before wrecking the rear end. I always figured good brakes are a must after that.
I had a brake "incident" a couple of years ago with the J55 brakes on the C4. No brakes at the end of a long straight is not a good feeling. The Wilwoods were ordered a couple of days later. I never want that feeling again.
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Work has started on the C5. I've laid out my game plan and quite simply, I am not going to get into the same boat as I was in with the C4. It was stooopid fast but completely unclassable for competition. The C5Z will be built in stages, first with HPDE in mind, then moving on to competition and into a specific class once the landscape of SCCA/NASA become more clear.

In she goes...





Tow hook on, I think that makes it official, right?



SKF HD bearings:






SKF compared to stock: These Mofos are BEEFY





More to come. OMP 6 point harness came today as well as the hardbar mounting bracket. Those aren't going to go in until I decide what I am doing for a rollbar or cage.

I love the C4 but damn... working on the C5 is a breeze so far in comparison.
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I love the C4 but damn... working on the C5 is a breeze so far in comparison.


The first time I did some work on a C5, it was so easy that it got me angry. I guess the C4 fixed all the BS, and made the C5~C6 an easy car to work.

To align a C5 is a total joke compared to the C4, and many other things.

The oil change is not...
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The oil change is not...
Oil change on the C5 is easy compared to the '96 with the headers, oil cooler lines etc in the way.

Only thing I have found so far that is more difficult is actually getting it up in the air.
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Well... I went and did it now. I got a deal that I just couldn't pass up and now these are on the way:

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Well... I went and did it now. I got a deal that I just couldn't pass up and now these are on the way:

Compared to the C4 coilover installation, those are a walk (blindfolded) in the park to install.

Bryan, the C5 front shock tower is thinner than the C4's. I would recommend you to do what you recommended me to do on mine.

Now...I've seen many C5 with coilovers (Track, street and Auto-X), and none failed yet.

You already know that
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