Coldpocalypse II: We are Literally All Going to Die Thread

[gs568]

Originally Posted by Rodnok1

Read something about that, a total collapse was imminent and would have taken months to recover the infrastructure.

That’s crazy. Glad to hear that it was caught in time.

[snide]

Originally Posted by Rodnok1

Read something about that, a total collapse was imminent and would have taken months to recover the infrastructure.

That would have sucked out lout if that had happened.

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by snide

You could make a shit-ton of snow cones with that.

I dare you to lick it.

[snide]

Originally Posted by dvarapala

I dare you to lick it.

Nope.

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by Stangkiller

@bill_daniels and @aerovette. Y’all okay? I have a few thousand bucks in plumb supplies arriving today through next week. Need anything before I turn it all over to my plumber neighbor?

Greatly appreciate the offer.

I have only PVC in the entire house and I think you are all copper so I'm guessing I can't use any of it. I did need a 3/4 PVC coupling, but I used a T with a stub and cap in place of it, until I determine what my long term solution will be to prevent this from happening again. I'm tempted to build a doghouse around the water inlet and open it up to the garage.

Ripple effect of all this is that all the cans of spray paint or house paint I had in garage are probably shot. Maybe brake fluid and bug spray too.

[Stangkiller]

Originally Posted by aerovette

Greatly appreciate the offer.

I have only PVC in the entire house and I think you are all copper so I'm guessing I can't use any of it. I did need a 3/4 PVC coupling, but I used a T with a stub and cap in place of it, until I determine what my long term solution will be to prevent this from happening again. I'm tempted to build a doghouse around the water inlet and open it up to the garage.

Ripple effect of all this is that all the cans of spray paint or house paint I had in garage are probably shot. Maybe brake fluid and bug spray too.

My house is weird, it's a mix of CPVC and Copper....but what I've ordered is a mix of PVC, CPVC, Copper and an assortment of Sharkbites...I think I've dropped just shy of $2,800 on supplies. I do have a 3/4" 90* on order, so i'll check in with you when it arrives to see if you're interested.

Most all of this stuff will be flipped (at cost) to my neighbor who's a plumber, I just had internet before him so ordered what I could. I do not intend to profit from any of this, just hopefully can help some neighbors out.

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by Stangkiller

My house is weird, it's a mix of CPVC and Copper....but what I've ordered is a mix of PVC, CPVC, Copper and an assortment of Sharkbites...I think I've dropped just shy of $2,800 on supplies. I do have a 3/4" 90* on order, so i'll check in with you when it arrives to see if you're interested.

Most all of this stuff will be flipped (at cost) to my neighbor who's a plumber, I just had internet before him so ordered what I could. I do not intend to profit from any of this, just hopefully can help some neighbors out.

I waited in line forever to get parts for my repair and some extra just in case. No couplings though. They were ringing people up in advance in line Chick Fil-A style. I had everything in a bucket just to carry it. A couple things didn't scan and she said they would get it at the register. She asked if I wanted the bucket. I said, no, I'm just using it to carry stuff. She didn't scan it. I got to the register and she gave the total. I said I needed to get the price for the Ts and she said, "free today". I said I needed a bag because I didn't have the bucket scanned. She said "bless your heart" and handed me my receipt.

Free bucket, free Ts....winning !

[Jeff '79]

Originally Posted by Stangkiller

That’s plan especially for the pipe over the bedroom.
I’ve attached two pics from my master bedroom...this particular pipe blew out in three separate places...it is being replaced it pex, since it services an outdoor faucet I’m hoping we can tie in a hot water and cold water line instead of just cold.



It turns out I had three separate lines freeze. This is after shutting off water and opening all the faucets. I was very lucky my neighbor was able to supply the 3 needed sharkbites to cap the lines so we could restore water.

We have full water pressure, power, internet and the same old spotty cell reception.

Man, that really sucks.
I got an estimate to retrofit my entire place with PEX and it was $3400.00.
Not bad in my opinion.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Jeff '79

Man, that really sucks.
I got an estimate to retrofit my entire place with PEX and it was $3400.00.
Not bad in my opinion.

That sounds incredibly cheap.

[Jeff '79]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

That sounds incredibly cheap.

Ya, that's exactly what I thought, but it was from a reputable plumber in the area.
Maybe because it's just one floor, 2 full bathrooms, kitchen sink & dishwasher, two outside hose bibs, and a washing machine.

[09CTSV]

A few years back we had to replace our main water line due to a leak in the middle of summer. Found out the asshat builder used the black PVC tubing which is not for code. When the ground settled over the years the pipe first flexed in the yard and then where it came thru the foundation.
We replaced it with PEX piping and are very thankful we did.

[Rodnok1]

Originally Posted by Jeff '79

Ya, that's exactly what I thought, but it was from a reputable plumber in the area.
Maybe because it's just one floor, 2 full bathrooms, kitchen sink & dishwasher, two outside hose bibs, and a washing machine.

Probably 400 bucks in parts, maybe 600 if bibs are changed completely. 3k for labor and probably a one day job.

They replaced alot of that grey piping around here under mfg warranty from a huge settlement. One level one day to put new in. They didn't remove the old either just ran new along side of it. New holes in floor for toilets with old still in walls, just something to think about as to me looked bad.

[TripleBlack]

Our little burg lifted their boil water order this morning. Temps near 60 and food on the grocery shelves again.

Waiting a day or two to assess damage to pool equipment. Some PVC damage evident.... Water level in pool looks normal which is a relief as some near have have reported cracks from expanding ice.

[Murray]

Originally Posted by TripleBlack

Our little burg lifted their boil water order this morning. Temps near 60 and food on the grocery shelves again.

Waiting a day or two to assess damage to pool equipment. Some PVC damage evident.... Water level in pool looks normal which is a relief as some near have have reported cracks from expanding ice.

Wouldn’t the entire pool have to freeze?

[99 pewtercoupe]

We just had to have our place replumbed with PEX. Ran almost 6K but this is a two story, 3.5 baths, kitchen sink, washing machine, 3 outside bibs replaced and new shut off valve. Took two guys the better part of a week.

We had two different plumbers (besides the company we picked to do the work) plus an AC tech tell us that the existing plumbing material no longer met code and that due to the age of the house it was likely we would see it starting to crack and split soon.

[Rodnok1]

Originally Posted by Murray

Wouldn’t the entire pool have to freeze?

Pump has frozen and filter along with lines, can be very expensive when they freeze up.
They didn't have power so even if wanted to couldn't have keep it flowing.

[TripleBlack]

Originally Posted by Murray

Wouldn’t the entire pool have to freeze?

You know, that's what I thought - and still do, but my son has friends in a neighborhood a few minutes north of me and some of their neighbors had cracked pools. I couldn't confirm but decided to go around the pool and break up the ice after I lost the pump. The ice was over 3 inches thick in places. It doesn't seem reasonable that the pool could crack, but homeowners policies here don't usually cover pool damage. Did this three consecutive days.

Our power was never off long enough for the equipment to freeze except I forgot that my pool sweep runs off a separate pump and is set to only run for a couple hours a day. When I set the pool to run continuously I didn't think about the sweep. I think I would have been fine had I thought to take 10 seconds to set that pump on continuous. When I discovered the burst PVC, I shut the pool down and drained the filter and pumps. The pool froze quickly after that. If the pump isn't busted, it should be an easy fix.

[JRD77VET]

Originally Posted by TripleBlack

............ The ice was over 3 inches thick in places. It doesn't seem reasonable that the pool could crack, but homeowners policies here don't usually cover pool damage. Did this three consecutive days.

https://inspectapedia.com/plumbing/F..._Water_Ice.php

About half way down the page

What is the Expansive Force of Freezing Water?
Frozen copper water line shows freeze stresses (C) Daniel Friedman How much does water expand or contract as a function of temperature and how much does ice expand? Various sources give different expansion forces for freezing ice.

Depending on its state, freezing water (or ice as temperatures continue to drop) can expand by as much as nine percent at a maximum force between about 25,000 and 114,000 psi.

[Entropy]

If y’all know anyone who needs food or water on the NW side of the DFW metroplex, the local mobile Ribs guy (Willie's Q-Shack) traveled down from Cedar Rapids and will be cooking. Last I heard he was at the Ramada parking lot at the intersection of Regal Road and I-35.
There's clothing and other stuff to. I donated a few things and sent some money with him.

When Cedar Rapids had the big derecho storm in August he drove all over town cooking for people and gave away tons of food.

[TripleBlack]

Originally Posted by JRD77VET

https://inspectapedia.com/plumbing/F..._Water_Ice.php

About half way down the page

What is the Expansive Force of Freezing Water?
Frozen copper water line shows freeze stresses (C) Daniel Friedman How much does water expand or contract as a function of temperature and how much does ice expand? Various sources give different expansion forces for freezing ice.

Depending on its state, freezing water (or ice as temperatures continue to drop) can expand by as much as nine percent at a maximum force between about 25,000 and 114,000 psi.

Wow... I just hope the 9% followed the path of least resistance and expanded up and not out. I should know more in a day or two as the temps the next few days are forecast to be in the high 50s to high 60s.
Thanks for posting this.