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06-20-2011, 8:04pm | #41 | ||||||
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Hard to say, almost looks like that was a 60/40 crash. The Integra took a strange outside line and the Porsche went on some weird inside line that made him go slow.
The Integra was off throttle and gaining on the slower car trying to stay off the brakes, his car kicked out a bit and by the time he was straight, he was on the Porsche. If you brake there, you'll spin. He tried to jack the brakes at the left hander and he STILL couldn't go slow enough. Short version: Porsche was too slow and Integra was too fast. I have spun right where that Integra got loose and ended up out in the grass. I have also come up on people that go slow there and almost hit them. Start this video at 3:40. I was not being aggressive and I STILL almost hit the guy twice. |
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Oh, and to the OP, my last on-track was the same experience, except mine turned out to be a broken piston.
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Painted up to look like one. I doubt he ever made it up to your region.
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In the vette, I use the left hander as a throw away and then stand on the throttle, carrying a lot of speed through no-name straight. I have an Integra and it does get loose if you have it torqued up in a turn and then get out of the throttle.
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I wouldn't doubt that from the driver's seat of the Integra it looked like the Porsche all but stopped in the turn and with a run as big as he had there wasn't really anywhere to go. Perspective is a funny thing. As for the 2nd contact, without sitting behind the wheel, it is hard to say for sure whether he did the right thing or not. It sure does look a lot easier on video. We all know that. |
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It is hard for me to follow that an early entry offers the opportunity for an outside pass. |
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miata because it doesn't have the hp to storm out of that turn. http://www.viddler.com/explore/MAZO6/videos/13/ |
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I tend to hit the apex ~ 3 or 4ft before the end of the new curbing. |
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My car will not out accelerate a C6Z, you can see him almost reeling me in on the straights at 14;30, but since I am on the throttle earlier, I am way out on him before he can get the car settled and apply power. My intitial line into big bend is funny because I made my pass at the brake zone and had to get the car rotated and on line while still scrubbing speed. I usually don't trail brake there but I had to in order to not go in the dirt. I usually stand on the brakes from the left side of the track and plant the nose to turn in. On that pass I had to come from the opposite side of the track so I apexed a little late.
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He doesn't seem that fast either. He didn't get back on the power until the exit of the downhill. I'm quickly jabbing the brake just before turn in to set the weight to the front and then put the gas pedal to the floor. I should be taking that turn flat out.
Do you notice you are able to carry more speed at the exit of big bend when you don't trail brake? I brake from the 3 almost until the apex. I then am at about half throttle until I start to turn into the second half of the turn. I get past the most at the exit of big bend and entry of the left hander and I can't seem to figure out why, especially when a lot of those cars are matching or outbraking me going into big bend. |
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Not sure what speeds you are carrying but I am at around 135-140 in the front straight and then I stand on the brakes deep (ABS car) and try to get all of my braking done before I turn the wheel.
I usually feed into the thottle right at the apex but then get on the brakes for the left hander. You can tell when I am WOT because I was burning a lot of oil and my car does the James Bond smokescreen. In the downhill, I tap to settle the nose but I have seen stock C5Z's go in no brakes at close to 100mph in that turn. I'm not at that point yet. |
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So you're gliding between turn in and the apex?
I can't hit the brakes between the first and second apex. I'll lose all my speed. I don't have a speedometer in the car but if I was to guess, I'm probably at between 115 and 120 when i get on the brakes. Do you have plans to run LRP anytime this year? |
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You can sort of see me in this video. I'm the orange rx-7 in front of the BMW. I come into view at about the 30 second mark. You can see a little bit of how I take big bend and the esses.
edit: actually, it looks like I hug the first part of big bend, which is just the camera angle. |
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hey Val, mail me one of your broken end links and I will design a fix for you and datapunk
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Val get a set of Powergrids and ditch the heim-joint links.
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