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“In our glorious fight for civil rights, we must guard against being fooled by false slogans, as 'right-to-work.' It provides no 'rights' and no 'works.' Its purpose is to destroy labor unions and the freedom of collective bargaining... We demand this fraud be stopped.”
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“According to union documents, ‘representational activities’ (money spent on bargaining contracts for members) made up only 11 percent of total spending for the union. Meanwhile, spending on ‘general overhead’ (union administration and employee benefits) comprised of 61 percent of the total spending.”
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Warned you that no educated response would be made.
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I think this whole anti RTW laws is a funny stance, shituation....that flys in the face of the obvious....
just look at how Detroit looks today, remember the comparisons with Japan's cities ?? from 60+ years ago, When I went to a manufacturing plant in Detroit central city back in the early 80's I was totally UNimpressed by that city......garbage everywhere....now the garbage includes most of the buildings, never seen such lack of control/care ...... I bet most of the southern RTW states don't have THAT kind of decay...... Another laughing matter.....it costs twice as much to live in Michigan as most any southern state.....TAXES MAN, so you make twice as much, so what?? all taken back in cost of living, and TAXES.....not to mention the weather..... |
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Actually, the names Joecooool has been called FAR outnumber the names he's called anyone in both quantity and severity. Don't believe me? Run a search. Still don't believe me? Send me a PM if you want to discuss it further.
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I think people have too many damn 'rights' today, the right to my tax money, the right to a .gov job, the right to graduate HS and can't even read their own name, jest put yo X on da line, knowwhatImean, Jack???? no child left behind...the right to invade this country and get welfare checks, the right to get our finest destroyed by another liberal/commie regime in endless wars we refuse to WIN..... Tell you what Phil, take your rights and jamb where sun don't shine..... |
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The problem isn't private unions. It's the public unions, where public union reps negotiate with politicians, promising a quid pro quo for the old "You scratch our backs, and we'll scratch yours." All with taxpayer money, yet the taxpayer has no say at the negotiation table. That's completely wrong, and it's why every pro-public union initiative that was on the ballot in Michigan last November got shot down big time. The people have had enough of this game, and it's just beginning. Doubt me? Just watch.
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That is because the workers at BMW in Germany belong to a union. |
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it's the COST OF LIVING that counts, not what you make.....WTF good is 200 grand a year when 1/2 is taken in taxes, a house costs 300 grand, and you need a couple of 30k cars to commute, and HVAC runs 400/month..... and your spouse has to pitch in to scratch that other grand/month for food and gasoline...... |
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And as per various observations, they have the living bejeezus taxed out of them, in part to support the indulgences of Greece, Italy, and developing issues in Spain. So manufacturing costs were too high in Germany, and they outsourced. This produced jobs in the USA. And this is bad how? And for the record, there isn't a damn thing stopping the SC BMW employees from organizing if they thought the unionization would actually benefit them. Same is true in all other RTW states. Guess they're not buying the union bullshit anymore. Last edited by Loco Vette; 12-11-2012 at 11:02am. |
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Assuming for a minute that you aren't just pulling unsubstantiated shit straight out of your ass like you usually do, are you actually simple minded enough to make a statement that the sole reason is that they are unionized? Yep... none of the other infinite variables spanning 2 completely different economic systems on multiple continents have anything at all to do with the wages of workers. Screw all of that complex economics bullshit. You have it all figured out in 1 sentence. |
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what is funny is that I took a macro economics final yesterday at 1 and on said final one of the questions were
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the answer is D. So by looking at this economically we can argue that unions cause more harm than they do good. |
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The upside is you have a job, the downside is you fall out of the middle class. And keep in mind that the ONLY reason the plants are not unionized is because they pay the workers more than they otherwise would to keep the union out. If the union disappeared tomorrow, only a fool wouldn't believe the wages at these plants wouldn't drop. Race to the bottom! |
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