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Old 05-08-2013, 9:29pm   #1
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Deuteronomy 22:13 If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her,

:14 And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid:

:15 Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate:

:16 And the damsel's father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her;

:17 And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city.

:18 And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him;

:19 And they shall amerce him in an hundred shekels of silver, and give them unto the father of the damsel, because he hath brought up an evil name upon a virgin of Israel: and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days.

:20 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:

:21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the w-h-o-r-e in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.

:22 If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel.
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old testament, Christ died to redeem us, and not to condemn us to death.
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old testament, Christ died to redeem us, and not to condemn us to death.
But what about the poor bastards that lived before Christ?

And why couldn't Christ have come sooner and redeemed more people? Were they not good enough, as compared to the ones that came along later?

And wouldn't it have been much simpler (and with fewer people condemned vs have been redeemed in the first place) if these rules hadn't been the rules in the first place?
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But what about the poor bastards that lived before Christ?

And why couldn't Christ have come sooner and redeemed more people? Were they not good enough, as compared to the ones that came along later?

And wouldn't it have been much simpler (and with fewer people condemned vs have been redeemed in the first place) if these rules hadn't been the rules in the first place?
before christ, only the jews could get to heaven, after him both jews and gentiles.
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And why couldn't Christ have come sooner and redeemed more people? Were they not good enough, as compared to the ones that came along later?
He was fukkin busy.
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before christ, only the jews could get to heaven, after him both jews and gentiles.
Wow.

That seems really harsh, all of those Gentiles burning in hell for all eternity... the reason being, they were born at the wrong time.

And I suppose those living in the Americas, even before and after Christ, but prior to technology evolving to the point where they were able to receive the word, are also burning in hell for all eternity. The reason being, in their case, is that they were born on the wrong continent (or, I suppose, because someone else didn't invent ocean-crossing boats sooner).

Sad, really. Poor bastards.
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He was fukkin busy.
Must've been really, really, really important stuff he was busy with, to sacrifice all of those souls to an eternity in hell.
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what are tokens of virginity?
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what are tokens of virginity?
An intact hymen, to those who are charged with determining a woman's virginity in fundamentalist Muslim countries, is all the proof they need.

Never mind the fact that a hymen can be punctured in many ways other than by a penis.

Even today there are surgeons in those countries that do hymen reconstructive surgeries so that the husband can think they are marrying a virgin.

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An intact hymen, to those who are charged with determining a woman's virginity in fundamentalist Muslim countries, is all the proof they need.

Never mind the fact that a hymen can be punctured in many ways other than by a penis.

Even today there are surgeons in those countries that do hymen reconstructive surgeries so that the husband can think they are marrying a virgin.

ok, i dont understand. if the dude is beating up on the wife, the father has to prove her virginity and the dude gets stoned, but if she's not a virgin, she gets stoned. if they are married, why should she be a vrigin?
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ok, i dont understand. if the dude is beating up on the wife, the father has to prove her virginity and the dude gets stoned, but if she's not a virgin, she gets stoned. if they are married, why should she be a vrigin?
Rules is rules.
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old testament, Christ died to redeem us, and not to condemn us to death.
Yet all the anti gay shit is old testament. Why do you pick and choose what parts are convenient to believe in?

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before christ, only the jews could get to heaven, after him both jews and gentiles.
Jews do not believe in Heaven. Do Jews believe in heaven and hell
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no one could keep all the laws.
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no one could keep all the laws.
All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

Some select few are forgiven, or at least, had the benefit of the possibility. Others were not so lucky... "Into the firey depths of hell you go! You had no choice, but, rules is rules."
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