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Old 05-26-2010, 10:56am   #1
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DALLAS -- After record growth in U.S. wind power generation capacity in 2009, top industry executives at the American Wind Energy Association conference were pessimistic Tuesday about prospects for a strong repeat performance this year. But former President George W. Bush cheered up conference attendees with bullish comments on the future of renewable energy.
The Texas wind industry also got some good news Tuesday, as Alstom, a French power generator, announced that it will open a 115,000-square-foot wind turbine facility in Amarillo. A major addition to an existing facility, it will bring 275 full-time engineering, production and technical-support jobs and is expected to be operational in 2011.
And one of China's largest wind turbine makers said Tuesday it has opened a Dallas office to serve customers in the Americas. Mingyang Wind Power Industry Group Co. Ltd. expects "to build and operate manufacturing centers in cities like Dallas," which it chose partly for its strategic location.
As the Gulf of Mexico oil spill continues causing economic and environmental damage, Bush told the audience of 6,000 at the Dallas Convention Center that "it's in our economic interests that we diversify away from oil."
"It's in our environmental interest," the onetime Midland oilman added. "And, finally, it's in our national security interest."

Bush spoke after a panel of wind industry executives urged adoption of a national renewable-electricity standard that would encourage long-term investment in wind power. The wind association favors a "25 x '25" proposal calling for 25 percent of the nation's electricity to be produced from renewable sources, such as wind and solar, by 2025.
The U.S. installed more than 10,000 megawatts of new wind generation capacity in 2009, its largest total ever. That represented 39 percent of all electric generation capacity additions during the year and was fueled in part by federal stimulus incentives. But only about 500 megawatts of new wind generation were added in the first three months of this year, making it "the slowest first quarter of wind installations since 2007," said Steve Bolze, a senior vice president with GE Energy.
"Right now, wind energy needs to get more cost-competitive," said Michael O'Sullivan, a senior vice president for NextEra Energy Resources, a major wind generator in Texas.
It was much easier for wind generation to compete against natural gas when gas cost $8 per 1,000 cubic feet, O'Sullivan said. But with it now only slightly above $4, renewable power "has gotten expensive" by comparison, he said.
Bush said he believes that his grandchildren will be driving electric cars, powered primarily by renewable sources of energy.
"I fully believe plug-in hybrids will be a transition to electric cars," he said. Hybrids are combination gasoline-electric vehicles. Plug-in hybrids can be recharged using standard electric outlets.
Oil and natural gas will remain vital sources of energy as the nation transitions to a new energy era, Bush said.

Denise Bode, the group's executive director, introduced Bush as "a wonderful, wonderful supporter of wind," who as Texas' governor backed a 1999 state law that helped establish new wind generation. Bush said the goal was to reach 2,000 megawatts in wind generation capacity within a decade.
Instead, Texas now has nearly five times that goal, with 9,506 megawatts of capacity. That's more than double any other state. If Texas were a nation, it would rank sixth in the world, Bush noted.
Paul Sadler, executive director of the Wind Coalition, a multi-state group that includes leading players in the Texas wind industry, praised Bush's comments.
"I think the former president is correct," said Sadler, a former Democratic state representative from East Texas. "It's important that we diversify our energy resources. It's critical for homeland security that we minimize our dependence on foreign oil and gas. It's critical that we continue in the direction we have been going on renewable energy."


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GBush has alway been in the pocket of an oil sheik. I mean who bought out his oil businesses when he ran them into hte ground before he was president.
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What exactly am I looking at? And what do you mean? And why are you posting stuff about the spill in this thread? A MAJOR reason I don't post in CFPR&C and it's because people come into the threads and post nonsensical, off the topic of the thread things like this. Please either stick to the point or start a new thread. There's already a thread here about the oil spill.


My thread is GWB, this week, saying that America needs to reduce it's dependance on foreign oil and do it by means of alternative renewable energy.


But if you need some links to obscure facts about the war for middle eastern oil - here's the recently uncovered Truman policy -

The Persian Gulf: Understanding the American Oil Strategy - Brookings Institution

The salient points as outlined by the Brookings Institute in the summer of 2002 - prior to the UN invasion after Saddam's eviction of UN nuclear inspectors:

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The Genesis of the Oil-Denial Policy

As the Cold War was moving to center stage in American foreign policy in 1948, a new worry emerged in the White House: that the Soviet Union could come to control oil supplies in the Middle East. It is no coincidence that much of the early preoccupation with the potential Soviet threat after the end of World War II centered on the remaining Soviet presence in Iran. But unknown to the public until the recent declassification of National Security Council documents (first uncovered by a reporter for the Kansas City Star, Steve Everly) was the extent of Truman administration concern about the possible Soviet takeover of the oil fields. Equally surprising was that the Truman administration built its strategy not so much on defending the oil fields in the face of a possible Soviet invasion, as on denying the Soviet Union use of the oil fields if it should invade.

The administration quickly developed a detailed plan that was signed by President Truman in 1949 as NSC 26/2 and later supplemented by a series of additional NSC directives. The plan, developed in coordination with the British government and American and British oil companies without the knowledge of governments in the region, called for moving explosives to the Middle East, where they would be stored for use. In case of a Soviet invasion, and as a last resort, the oil installations and refineries would be blown up and oil fields plugged to make it impossible for the Soviet Union to use the oil resources.

So great was the fear that the Soviets might exploit the region's oil that the administration considered deploying "radiological" weapons. Ultimately that option was rejected by the Central Intelligence Agency, as revealed in another recently declassified document, NSC 26/3, dated June 29, 1950. The explanation was this: "Denial of the wells by radiological means can be accomplished to prevent an enemy from utilizing the oil fields, but it could not prevent him from forcing 'expendable' Arabs to enter contaminated areas to open well heads and deplete the reservoirs. Therefore, aside from other effects on the Arab population, it is not considered that radiological means are practicable as a conservation measure." In other words, the logic of the rejection was that besides denying oil to the enemy, the policy also sought future "conservation" of oil, which "means a preservation of the resources for our own use after our reoccupation." Ultimately, more conventional plugging methods were recommended.

The plan was implemented and explosives were moved to the region. Although the State Department apparently expressed reservations that the plan might ultimately signal that the United States was not prepared to defend the local governments, the fear of Soviet control overwhelmed such concerns. Worries intensified still further in 1957, leading the Eisenhower administration to reinforce the plan as fears of regional instability grew following the Suez crisis. Evidence suggests that the plan remained in place at least through the early 1960s.

Denying Oil to Potential Enemies Today

Today, the prevailing perception in Washington is that Iraq and Iran are aggressive, dangerous states. Deterring their ability to encroach on Saudi oil fields—hence denying these states additional oil revenues—is one aim of the continuing American presence in the region. The underlying concern is not just about possible disruptions in oil supplies, and ensuing price shocks, that the actions of hostile regimes could occasion. The larger issue, from the standpoint of the United States, is that if Iraq or Iran were to enrich themselves by taking control of additional oil reserves, these regimes would soon become more menacing to the United States than they already are, even if they were eager to sell to the rest of the world all the oil they seized.

The extent to which Iraq and Iran are a threat will remain a matter of debate. Do they pose a threat to the United States? Or is the U.S. concern more for its friends in the region, especially Israel, for whom the two states are potential threats? It is hard to imagine the circumstances under which the current governments in Iraq and Iran (but especially in Iraq) will be seen as anything less than aggressive and threatening, especially since President Bush has declared them, together with North Korea, as the "evil axis" that will feature centrally in the war on terrorism. This outlook makes it likely that any American administration in the foreseeable future will continue to try to prevent these two states from coming to control the bulk of the world's known oil reserves—independent of U.S. concern for friendly Arab governments in the Gulf.

But whatever the reasoning behind the American military strategy, it remains in the interest of the Gulf Cooperation Council states to have American military backing. That gives the United States some leverage, but only up to a point since GCC states know that the U.S. strategy also serves American interests. The result is clear mutual incentives to cooperate. Certainly, when threats to oil are clear, as in the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990, Saudi Arabia and other GCC states will undoubtedly rally behind the United States to defend the oil fields. And even without imminent threat, GCC states, especially Kuwait, have an interest in the U.S. presence in the region. U.S. forces are spread throughout much of the Gulf, from prepositioned equipment in Qatar, to forces and equipment in Kuwait, to the naval facilities in Bahrain. The Saudis, who also host American troops, have incentives to maintain an American presence in the region even as they seek to lower the numbers and the profile of American forces on their own soil for fear of public backlash.

The extent to which the Saudi public resents the American presence as such is not entirely known (although obviously segments of that public do). What is clear is that much of the resentment of the United States is a function of the Arab-Israeli conflict, which has been a visible sore point in the U.S.-Saudi relationship in the past year. The Saudi government is reflecting a pervasive public mood on this issue. In a survey I conducted in Saudi Arabia last summer, 63 percent of Saudis ranked the Palestinian issue as "the single most important issue" to them personally, and another 20 percent ranked it among the top three. In a new survey among Saudi elites in late January, 66 percent said that their frustrations with the United States would be completely removed or significantly reduced if Washington could succeed in brokering Arab-Israeli peace. Importantly, 86 percent said that their frustrations with the United States are based on "its policies" and only 6 percent said they are based on "its values."

But in the months since September 11, the Saudis have discovered that their public perception of the illegitimacy of the American presence on their soil is a threat to them as well as to that presence—just as the United States has discovered the depth of public resentment in the region. This will necessitate mutual cooperation. The Saudis will have to transmit to their public the sort of friendship with America that has existed at the governmental level, and the United States will need to work with them to reduce the level and the profile of American forces without jeopardizing its military strategy. The Saudis will continue to need American backing, and the United States will continue to need their cooperation. The Gulf region and its immense oil reserves will only become more important for the global economy in the future.
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GBush has alway been in the pocket of an oil sheik. I mean who bought out his oil businesses when he ran them into hte ground before he was president.
Well, Bush Exploration tanked and was merged into Spectrum7 and what was left was merged into Harken Energy in 1986. Harken remains headquartered in Southlake, Texas today. Southlake has some nice houses and a damn good high school football team, but not many sheiks.

While not really a sheik, you might note that Harken was 30% owned by George Soros who does seem to have some questionable political connections...

Bush was on the Harken board until '93 but from '89 till 94 his full time job was Managing Partner of the Texas Rangers Baseball Club. He sold that to become Governor of Texas in 1994.

Given his success in both industries, he has a better chance of being in the pocket of Big Baseball, than Big Oil.
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What exactly am I looking at? And what do you mean? And why are you posting stuff about the spill in this thread? A MAJOR reason I don't post in CFPR&C and it's because people come into the threads and post nonsensical, off the topic of the thread things like this. Please either stick to the point or start a new thread. There's already a thread here about the oil spill.


My thread is GWB, this week, saying that America needs to reduce it's dependance on foreign oil and do it by means of alternative renewable energy.


But if you need some links to obscure facts about the war for middle eastern oil - here's the recently uncovered Truman policy -

The Persian Gulf: Understanding the American Oil Strategy - Brookings Institution

The salient points as outlined by the Brookings Institute in the summer of 2002 - prior to the UN invasion after Saddam's eviction of UN nuclear inspectors:
what you are looking at is a map of Iraq divided into 8 sections with a different oil company for each section ala Cheney. this was in 2001. "give me a reason to go into Iraq" [W] he's a Bush,you know. I just thought I'd make a comparison between the irony that was your attempt at proving Bush isn't an oil man & the fact that a so called "commie,socialist Lib" like Costner turns out to be a capitalist pig after all. wouldn't it be absolutely comical if a Hollywood Lib had the answer to the disaster caused by BP? GWB is right. Jimmy Carter tried to make the bold step to reduce our dependence on foreign oil & mandated a government agency dedicated to it, but Reagan squashed it when he came in. he even removed the solar panels on the White House. I may indeed come off as being "non sensical" but it ain't my fault. I'm on my off day & the beer is cold.
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Carter had no choice. The "Energy Crisis" (You have to remember that in 1976 scientists had proven we were on the cusp of an impending Ice Age because of 40 years of Global Cooling and the world will run out of oil before 1994!) was his only means to show he could do anything.

Carter destroyed the economy, 52 Americans spent a year and a half wondering what the hell he was doing by the fireside in his sweater while they sat blindfolded in Tehran, and his biggest foreign affairs successes were boycotting the Olympics and the lasting peace he built in the Middle East. (underlined so the sarcasm shines through)

Reagan couldn't stop Carter policies and initiatives fast enough.
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As for the maps and the interest in Iraqi oil in 2001, it goes to a small thing called the Oil for Food Scandal which nobody wants to talk about. The UN, Russia, France and many European countries where propping up Saddam in the face of the embargo on anything but humanitarian aid which could allow the exchange of Saddam's only currency - crude - for aspirin and groceries. Except he was also getting arms and hard currency and most of the other side was getting kickbacks.

Those countries were also the ones blocking the way for sanctions to work and for the UN and IAEC to inspect as a condition of the end of the Gulf War. So, to know who is playing the game you have to have a map, and a list of the players and potential players.

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^ I believe he was being facetious; you should have read the bold text. Instead you jumped in with the usual BS.
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Carter had no choice. The "Energy Crisis" (You have to remember that in 1976 scientists had proven we were on the cusp of an impending Ice Age because of 40 years of Global Cooling and the world will run out of oil before 1994!) was his only means to show he could do anything.
I'll also "remember" the gas lines at the pumps & the riots over gas that occurred in that time. I bought VW 's & learned how to work on them. we all had to do something. the "so called" Ice age had nothing to do with it. we were held captives to OPEC & there was nothing we could do about it. Carter tried to lead us out of that "junkie like" dependence, but he just wasn't a powerful enough politician & Reagan trashed every thing he did in that regard..
Carter destroyed the economy, 52 Americans spent a year and a half wondering what the hell he was doing by the fireside in his sweater while they sat blindfolded in Tehran, and his biggest foreign affairs successes were boycotting the Olympics and the lasting peace he built in the Middle East. (underlined so the sarcasm shines through)
the hostages were released on the very day Reagan took office. I believe in miracles, but don't piss down my leg & tell me it's raining. Iran Contra later showed exactly what was going on.
Reagan couldn't stop Carter policies and initiatives fast enough.
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As for the maps and the interest in Iraqi oil in 2001, it goes to a small thing called the Oil for Food Scandal which nobody wants to talk about. The UN, Russia, France and many European countries where propping up Saddam in the face of the embargo on anything but humanitarian aid which could allow the exchange of Saddam's only currency - crude - for aspirin and groceries. Except he was also getting arms and hard currency and most of the other side was getting kickbacks.
bull ****! this was a war for oil & the truth is just now starting to surface. Saddam also was threatening to take his oil off the dollar & use Euros as the only means of trade.
Those countries were also the ones blocking the way for sanctions to work and for the UN and IAEC to inspect as a condition of the end of the Gulf War. So, to know who is playing the game you have to have a map, and a list of the players and potential players.
the map tells the story. we invaded a sovereign nation on the false pretenses of WMD's. thousands of our bright,fearless young Americans & millions of Iraqis were killed or changed for the rest of their lives. all this was done for oil. Dick Cheney isn't known as a humanitarian. nether is Bush,nor will he ever be. it's time to face the facts & the facts are we were lied to [albeit in our best interests] or so *they* thought.
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^ I believe he was being facetious; you should have read the bold text. Instead you jumped in with the usual BS.
sorry if you can't keep up. I know exactly what he meant.
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Look what Bush did here. 13:55

Fmr. EPA Investigator Scott West: US Has Told BP "It Can Do Whatever It Wants and Won't Be Held Accountable"
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can you imagine what would happen to your or I if we ran our car into a gas pump & 11 people died as a result? whatta ya wanna bet these guys will walk? hell,look at the Massey Coal Mine disasters. I don't see anybody answering for that loss of human lives. I do think there is a better chance of making individuals pay for their disregard for safety & life under this administration than one mired in big oil/coal like the last one was.
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