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Old 06-21-2023, 8:06am   #81
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Remember baby Jessica down the well in Texas? The Chilean miners? The world was on the edge of its seat as those rescue attempts were underway.
I remember the baby Jessica thing. She got married to some dude 13 years her senior. One thing I can guaran-damn-tee is that they were connected to city water.....



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Old 06-21-2023, 8:33am   #82
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Explain this?? Does the plane drop some sort of device in the ocean that allows them to hear underwater?
We have buoys that send a ping signal out and a plane or ship retrieves the return.. It will notify us of an objects range, depth.
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Not if the Canadians are right.
They're not. They're dead.
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And yet we lost the Thresher and the Scorpion. I used to work on 616's.
...and just like Titanic, there were massive lessons learned and improvements made due to both of those. And the USS Cole, and Stark...

Military vessels pushing the boundaries of technology and looking for that tactical advantage are 1 thing. Lighter, faster, quieter, stealthier, able to dive deeper, carry more payload, etc. All of those things come at some cost to margin. This on the other hand... I can't imagine a reason that for something like this they wouldn't have at least 4x rescue and recovery systems. Use a cable recovery with the parent ship, float buoys, active beacons, everything. Make it impossible to miss. Diving a homemade submarine controlled by a playstation controller to those depths without redundant on top of redundant recovery systems is absolutely f**king stupid.

Maybe next, Space-X can start launching people into space with some Estes model rocket parachutes to get them back down. That's about the equivalent of what has happened here.
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They've got about 1 day's worth of air left, assuming they're not dead already.
How fast do you think two pakis chanting allasnackbar non-stop would use up all the oxygen? Pretty damned fast IMO.
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Old 06-21-2023, 10:28am   #86
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If they were adrift at the bottom they could be off the coast of Africa by now.
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Old 06-21-2023, 11:04am   #88
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Waiting for Yadkin to chime in. He's an expert on matters like this.
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And yet we lost the Thresher and the Scorpion. I used to work on 616's.
Subsafe is a whole different matter, but regardless of the specs, when you are pushing limits accidents can happen and lessons learned. I believe Thresher's cause was potentially a failure of a brazed sea water pipe and possible freezing of the emergency blow system due to moisture.

Scorpion's cause I believe is still in question due to possible involvement with the Soviets.
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Simpsons writer who went on missing Titanic submarine expedition tells how it was plagued with communication issues

Mike Reiss, a writer and producer on The Simpsons, took a trip on OceanGate Expedition's Titan submersible to see the wreckage of the Titanic with his wife in 2022

During each of the three dives he did aboard the Titan sub last year, Reiss told The U.S. Sun the vessel ran into various communication and navigation issues, including getting lost near the bow of the Titanic.

And although he described the excursion as a "beautiful experience", he said he was aware at all times that catastrophe or death could strike at any moment.

"I've taken three different dives with the company and every time communication was an issue," said Reiss, 63.

"This is a new technology, and they're very much learning as they go with it but [communication] is probably the weakest link in the chain, and think in two of the three cases when I was there they were able to re-establish communication, but that seems to be the hardest part of this thing.

"We lost communication on the Titanic dive, then we got them back, but it was crackly - almost like something from a World War II movie - and then the problem would be literally communicating with the people on the surface about where we were.

"We were relying on them to guide us to where the Titanic wreck was, but everything they were telling us didn't correspond to what we were seeing."
'I DODGED A BULLET'

Reiss said the Titan was lost for almost three hours, "blindly searching" for the wreck site 12,500 feet below the surface of the water.

Just 20 minutes before they were due to begin their ascension, Reiss said they "stumbled" upon the bow of the doomed ship, leaving them just enough time to take a few "tourist shots."

Reiss said he didn't necessarily believe OceanGate's Titan was an accident waiting to happen, but said throughout the duration of each of his three dives he was fully resigned to the fact that something could go wrong at any moment.

He continued: "The possibility of catastrophe and death just hangs over you - it's just a part of what you're doing.

"You sign a length waiver before you get on the ship that mentions death three times on the first page.

"The trip is beautiful and more peaceful than you would think, but you know you could die at any moment or things could go terribly wrong at any time, and that's all part of the experience.

"This isn't a tourism boat, this is exploration. And exploration can be incredibly dangerous."
https://www.the-sun.com/news/8415118...ssing-dangers/
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Supposedly, they have heard banging:
I don't care if I'm about to die, I'm not banging the guys in my submarine.
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How fast do you think two pakis chanting allasnackbar non-stop would use up all the oxygen? Pretty damned fast IMO.
The air would last longer if they went all jihad on the kafirs, just sayin'.
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I don't care if I'm about to die, I'm not banging the guys in my submarine.
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Old 06-21-2023, 12:44pm   #94
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Just read that even if they find it immediately there's not enough time left to get equipment on site and get them to the surface. Pratty bad way to go.
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Here’s the sub shown but CEO. NFW I’d go in it
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Could the Titan be another MH-370 and never be found?
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Here’s the sub shown but CEO. NFW I’d go in it
Guy looks like Yadkin - NFW I'd go in it either. That titanium ring was probably off by 1/8"...
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Here’s the sub shown but CEO. NFW I’d go in it
Holy shit, what a piece of shit!
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