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You want to know why this is a political discussion?
This: It is because of a bunch of idealistic f**kwads that we KNOW things like this and yet he is still allowed to be walking around. We are so goddamn wrapped up in the politically correct BS that we won't even call a spade a spade. This P.O.S. and his entire P.O.S. family should have been dumped back in the chithole they climbed out of but no... that would be too mean. That would be profiling. That would be insensitive. THIS is why it is political. All of these idealistic, liberal f**ks need to open their eyes. Quote:
Do you think that this guy could have killed 50 people in a biker bar in Texas? Do you think he would have even tried? I'd be willing to bet that there wasn't a single person in that club who was carrying. What if even 5 had been... even 1? What could have been different if someone in the front row of the theater in Colorado had been carrying? How many lives could have been saved if someone at that Christmas party had a little .380 in their pocket? It's not a perfect solution, not even close, but it's what we have. Even if someone carrying doesn't actually shoot them and take them out, it makes them pause. It puts them on the defensive. It gives time for someone to escape that otherwise wouldn't have or even a chance for someone to step up and be a hero. This guy stood there taking deliberate pot shots at HELPLESS people who were completely powerless to do anything about it. That is unacceptable. |
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Red Goat you make excellent points but I'm going back to my thought with a little more explanation; we've failed as a society when we don't kick people like this f***wad out of the country the INSTANT we identify them as a potential threat. 'We've got armed citizens!' is long long after the real problem has occurred.
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We don't do things for the collective good any more. Lawyers have seen to that. Suing everyone and everything in sight-so that it's impossible to design anything for the majority, you have to design and accept anything anything. You want to make America great again ? Get rid of the sleazy lawyers. |
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This guy was investigated by the FBI and was on a watch list, but still able to legally purchase firearms. FAIL.
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There were a lot of reasons to have locked up this individual awhile ago... or place 24/7 watch on him. But, there was a good chance that he and his father would be voting for democrats in the upcoming election... so there's that.
Thomas, CCW would of saved the lives of a few... and that's all it's intended to do. It is to protect an individual... and not serve as a protection force. The wide force of protection would have to come from our Presidents mandates... and trickle on down to the local level. He's a 21st century democrat, and votes for his party are more important than anything else (it ain't gonna happen). |
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Yet we are wiling to bring 200K Muslims into America, feed them, cloth them and house them. Why are we breaking the law? |
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He would have had a much smaller kill/wounded count if that asshole tied to shoot up a redneck bar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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I must remind you that the two individuals (Obama and Clinton) have at least 200 guns guarding them at all times making statements that us peons shouldn't have the same ability to protect ourselves.
As said before, funny how a motorcycle bar wasn't the target of choice. Soft targets like schools and clubs that generally deal with liberal views are easy pickings if you want to make a name for yourself. In other news, a black guy set a couple of white guys on fire near Baltimore. You may have to search the back page for that article. |
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The sad reality is that we have likely passed the tipping point. A Clinton victory will confirm that. |
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The sad thing about this is, nothing will change among the "big tent" Dem party. The GBLTorque community won't put things together and say, why the Hell are we in the same tent with people who want to import hundreds of thousands more of people like this.
I can't figure out if that is self loathing, or maybe common core math failure where they can't put two and two together. Trump might be a douchebag, but he's a douchebag who says he will put a halt to bringing in more people like the Orlando shooter, vs. Hillary who promises to bring in lots more. If you are a identity voter that votes primarily on the gay issue, why the Hell would you consider voting for Hillary, especially after this? |
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Read it again? Good. |
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The Constitution isn't a suicide pact. Any sovereign nation has the right (and duty) to control who comes in. We have been failing at that, and because of that, 50 people are dead today. More will die because of our past failures, but we can do something, start today, and stop making the same mistake. Unfortunately we can't stop the ongoing mistake until Jan. 20, 2017.
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And incidentally? The 1952 Imigration Act is a Cold War relic. |
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The part of it for me is that people voted for this Muslim sympathiser the first time.... and a double for voting for him the second (third, fourth, tenth) time. |
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I absolutely understand your point and this is not to debate, but how can we just break the laws intended to keep us safe. I'm not sure that we should be self policing right now. Some day (God I hope not) we might have to, but we aren't better to stoop to that level to just break the laws. I carry, but I do it per the laws set. Quote:
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Not everyone may fit your description I have been to that bar to show support for friends, have also been there for cirque du loe type shows. |
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