No Obamacare ~ God will protect you

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by Scissors

You're referring, I take it, to anyone who maintains their car but is fat, yes?

As an Adult, I would not refer to Fat People as Unhealthy, because I’m not a Doctor or am I their Doctor.

I’m referring to people who are smart enough to ensure their health are not stupid enough to get sick from preventable health issues the the rest of the public will have to pay for.

[Peter Pan]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

As an Adult, I would not refer to Fat People as Unhealthy, because I’m not a Doctor or am I their Doctor.

I’m referring to people who are smart enough to ensure their health are not stupid enough to get sick from preventable health issues the the rest of the public will have to pay for.

You do not have to have health insurance to make sure you are stupid enough to get sick from preventable health issues. Where does it make you healthly just by having insurance?

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by Peter Pan

You do not have to have health insurance to make sure you are stupid enough to get sick from preventable health issues. Where does it make you healthly just by having insurance?

Access to Health Professionals ... who actually Health Care Experts.

If you need a Life Raft, just ask.

[Z06PDQ]

Originally Posted by Peter Pan

You do not have to have health insurance to make sure you are stupid enough to get sick from preventable health issues. Where does it make you healthly just by having insurance?

what if you are genetically predisposed [like I am?] if you can't afford it just die? the same old "I got mine,you get yours mentality"you people are so famous for.

[Peter Pan]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

Access to Health Professionals ... who actually Health Care Experts.

If you need a Life Raft, just ask.

Originally Posted by Z06PDQ

what if you are genetically predisposed [like I am?] if you can't afford it just die? the same old "I got mine,you get yours mentality"you people are so famous for.

You guys are funny, I do not need insurance to access a health professional and the new HC law is not affordable as the name states for small business and individuals, oh this is most of America. My wifey who made enough money yearly before we met made the decison to not purchase HC and paid out of pocket for her needs and did not drag on the taxpayers, does she have insurance now only because of me or she would still have the option to purchase or not and that is what America is built on freedom not being told we have to buy something. Yes I own a car but I do not have to and then I would not need car insurance, I own my home and it is my choice again to carry insurance, again choice not forced to purchase a product.

Pulling 50 billion a year for atleast the next 10 years from seniors HC is the libs telling you when you get old just die baby die

[Z06PDQ]

do you know anyone who is low income & needs health care? I do. in fact she lives right there in Harris county. she says it's almost non existent unless you go to the ER & when the bill comes you will shit your pants.

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

It's sad that some people put more stock into their Car than their Health.


I'm glad someone is looking out for all the American People and not just the Privilege few.

Comparing mandatory auto insurance to mandatory health insurance is pure crap.

In most states you are only required to carry liability insurance which covers the other person. There is no law stating that you have to cover your own property.

-Mandatory auto insurance covers damage you do to other people.
-Mandatory health insurance covers damage to yourself.

They are completely different.

Being forced to have comprehensive coverage if you have a loan and the vehicle is owned by the bank is in your loan agreement and is there to protect the bank's investment. It is not a law.

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

Comparing mandatory auto insurance to mandatory health insurance is pure crap.

In most states you are only required to carry liability insurance which covers the other person. There is no law stating that you have to cover your own property.

-Mandatory auto insurance covers damage you do to other people.
-Mandatory health insurance covers damage to yourself.

They are completely different.

Being forced to have comprehensive coverage if you have a loan and the vehicle is owned by the bank is in your loan agreement and is there to protect the bank's investment. It is not a law.

IF you read it, that's not what I'm saying. If you don't care about your health, that's fine with me.

But when the EMT show up, they don't ask the Public any questions. They take care of the Sick.

Know the difference first,

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

Comparing mandatory auto insurance to mandatory health insurance is pure crap.

In most states you are only required to carry liability insurance which covers the other person. There is no law stating that you have to cover your own property.

-Mandatory auto insurance covers damage you do to other people.
-Mandatory health insurance covers damage to yourself.

They are completely different.

Being forced to have comprehensive coverage if you have a loan and the vehicle is owned by the bank is in your loan agreement and is there to protect the bank's investment. It is not a law.

Home maybe ... which state allows you to drive without auto insurance ?

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by Exotix

Home maybe ... which state allows you to drive without auto insurance ?

Read what I said again. I never said states allowed you to drive without insurance. I said they let you drive without COMPREHENSIVE insurance. I have liability only on a few of my cars...

All states (I think) require liability. None that I have ever lived in require comprehensive.

Which goes back to what I said in the first place. The insurance laws are there to protect the person you hit. There is nothing saying you have to protect yourself (which is why it isn't comparable to health insurance)

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

IF you read it, that's not what I'm saying. If you don't care about your health, that's fine with me.

But when the EMT show up, they don't ask the Public any questions. They take care of the Sick.

Know the difference first,

You're right... your post wasn't the one I should have quoted. I was more responding to the one below.

Originally Posted by Exotix

You're forced to buy auto & home insurance (if still bank owned) ... how come that's not socialist/communist/national socialist fascist wrong ?

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

Read what I said again. I never said states allowed you to drive without insurance. I said they let you drive without COMPREHENSIVE insurance. I have liability only on a few of my cars...

All states (I think) require liability. None that I have ever lived in require comprehensive.

Which goes back to what I said in the first place. The insurance laws are there to protect the person you hit. There is nothing saying you have to protect yourself (which is why it isn't comparable to health insurance)

We wouldn't be having this conversation if the Un-Healthy didn't affect anyone else. Not different if you went out and flipped your car and damaged nothing but your own car. But that's not the case.

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

Read what I said again. I never said states allowed you to drive without insurance. I said they let you drive without COMPREHENSIVE insurance. I have liability only on a few of my cars...

All states (I think) require liability. None that I have ever lived in require comprehensive.

Which goes back to what I said in the first place. The insurance laws are there to protect the person you hit. There is nothing saying you have to protect yourself (which is why it isn't comparable to health insurance)

I see ... so Obamacare (reform) is like auto/home insurance ... you get a name-your-own-price gun based on what coverage you can afford ... except Congress ... they get to max out the name-your-own-price gun and give it back to you with crumbs left and you pay for it ... that's how I see the (R) Obamacare repeal ...

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

We wouldn't be having this conversation if the Un-Healthy didn't affect anyone else. Not different if you went out and flipped your car and damaged nothing but your own car. But that's not the case.

The effects and costs to others are certainly a part of it. There is no arguing that but it is still way way different than auto insurance (which was my only point). Mandated liability auto insurance protects an individual who you have wronged. If you smash into somebody, your insurance directly pays that individual. That is COMPLETELY different than mandated health care.

If you have noticed, I have not said one thing about mandated health care being a good thing or a bad thing. I am not arguing that. I am simply saying that it is not anywhere close to the same thing as laws mandating that you have liability insurance to drive your car.

Originally Posted by Exotix

I see ... so Obamacare (reform) is like auto/home insurance ... you get a name-your-own-price gun based on what coverage you can afford ... except Congress ... they get to max out the name-your-own-price gun and give it back to you with crumbs left and you pay for it ... that's how I see the (R) Obamacare repeal ...

Engrish?

WTF does that have to do with auto vs. health insurance?

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

The effects and costs to others are certainly a part of it. There is no arguing that but it is still way way different than auto insurance (which was my only point). Mandated liability auto insurance protects an individual who you have wronged. If you smash into somebody, your insurance directly pays that individual. That is COMPLETELY different than mandated health care.

If you have noticed, I have not said one thing about mandated health care being a good thing or a bad thing. I am not arguing that. I am simply saying that it is not anywhere close to the same thing as laws mandating that you have liability insurance to drive your car.



Engrish?
WTF does that have to do with auto vs. health insurance?

Name-your-own-price Gun ... minimum liability is/are for those who can barely afford insurance but need or want to drive ... if you get into wreck and/or you send someone to the hospital that costs over say $20,000 ... you pay the rest.

Sound familiar with regards to Obamacare ?

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by Exotix

Sound familiar with regards to Obamacare ?

Have you completely missed the point of what I am saying?

-Obamacare forces you to protect yourself.

-Auto liability insurance protects the other person.

Like Chas said, with health issues there are indeed trickle down effects to others but that is not the main reason for Obamacare... not even close. The main cause is the undying need for people to try to protect us from ourselves.

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by Exotix

Name-your-own-price Gun ... minimum liability is/are for those who can barely afford insurance but need or want to drive ... if you get into wreck and/or you send someone to the hospital that costs over say $20,000 ... you pay the rest.

Sound familiar with regards to Obamacare ?

Driving is a choice.

Obamacare makes somebody pay for insurance simply for existing.

Another fundamental difference between the 2 things.

[RetiredSFC 97]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

But Honest Officer; it so much wrong with making me buy Auto Insurance. If I get into an accident and or hurt someone, why can't you pay for it? You have a job, why not?

So please, let me go on my way.

Take a bus, problem solved

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

Driving is a choice.

Obamacare makes somebody pay for insurance simply for existing.

Another fundamental difference between the 2 things.

Another fundamental of Obamacare is the creation of a better healthier economy ... and I can see it would be going through one ear and out the other if I digressed on item by item with specifics ...

Nobody is gonna put you in jail for not having Obamacare ... that's a neocon fear agenda ...

... but they will put you in jail and impound your car for not having auto insurance and/or a drivers license (and why do you need a drivers license as a Gerogia (R) congressman wants to get of ...)

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by RetiredSFC 97

Take a bus, problem solved

Can't do that, Bus Driver has Insurance.