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Old 12-21-2012, 11:03pm   #261
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:14pm   #262
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All they did was just rambled on about nonsensical boogy-man security issues, blaming video games and movies (literally - they did this), pornography, and Mortal Kombat.

Mortal Kombat didn't even have any guns in it.
So your assertion is that violence and death, regardless of the presence of guns, has no impact on the psyche of youth that may already have mental issues to start with...

I cannot positively say it does. I cannot positively say it doesn't. But it's one of the things that has changed in the last 20-30 years that we ought to take a look at.
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Old 12-22-2012, 12:25am   #263
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I think we need to look less at guns, less at knives, less at clip/mag capacity...less at gun laws, less at video games and porn, and start looking at the sanctity of marriage, morals within the household, the value of a mother and a father raising the children, the family unit...and keeping it together.

Seems like its these kids that the family is broken, or spaced out...the kids are basically ignored and allowed to wander around..and they end up picking up a gun, or a bomb, and taking out their demented rage on the people around them.

We got priests raping kids, we got mothers killing daughters and walking free. Lets not forget the number of mothers who have kids and immediately put them up for adoption. Also consider the number of kids who grow up with parents who abuse alcohol, and use drugs, beat them, sexually assault them or someone in the household...is it any wonder that every so often we get one ****ed up individual who goes on a rampage?
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Old 12-22-2012, 9:18am   #264
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So your assertion is that violence and death, regardless of the presence of guns, has no impact on the psyche of youth that may already have mental issues to start with...

I cannot positively say it does. I cannot positively say it doesn't. But it's one of the things that has changed in the last 20-30 years that we ought to take a look at.
Mental health issues, being bombarded with violence on television and video games from the time they're born, glorified violence in ALL forms of the media, broken homes with zero parental guidance, a society full of people who are never held accountable, .... nah... none of that has anything to do with violence.

Nope. It's all the gun's fault.



Apparently the newest media craze is calling it a "Bushmaster rifle" as if Bushmaster is the type of rifle rather than simply 1 of the near infinite brands that makes an AR variant. I'm guessing that about 99% of them don't have a clue. I guess Bushmaster makes it sound more scary. Idiots.
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And yet the right's "solution" to those issues - cutting the money - would only make the issues MUCH worse.
So, your stating we should continue entitlement programs so we don't get attacked? WTF, How about actually punishing criminals and stopping entitlements...a win-win
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So, your stating we should continue entitlement programs so we don't get attacked? WTF, How about actually punishing criminals and stopping entitlements...a win-win
Why would we ever do that? It would make the enlightened Robin Hoods feel less superior to the poor peasants if you took away that dependence.

Liberals can claim "equality" and "fairness" all day long but in reality it is the exact opposite. They genuinely believe themselves to be superior and they really do think that the less intelligent, less fortunate masses NEED their guidance and support to survive.
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Old 12-23-2012, 4:04pm   #267
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Old 12-23-2012, 4:27pm   #268
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First off the left created this mess. What did these people do BEFORE Welfare? Their families, Friends and neighbors took care of them. They did not die in the streets , they did not have more kids than they could afford because their support network made them stop. They made the Father pay. And most if not all found some way to earn a living. And you want to keep throwing money at the probelm?


Now let's ween them of it.
How about making them start to EARN their keep?

For the next two years. Anyone collecting government Welfare, Section 8 or Food stamps gets a pass on any income earned. It's 100% their less applicable taxes.

Over the next 8 years for each dollar earned they lose 0.50 in support. Max out the amount they can earn and still get support.( 45K a year?) Medicaid is still available unless they find a job that provide HC.

The those Young mothers who have kids here are the guidelines.

Once you go on Government money any additional kids you have you get nothing more. No food stamps. SSDI, Large Section 8. Nothing. You made a mistake. We are not going to pay for more. If you go on Birth control you get 100.00 a month more. If you don't you risk having to spend more out of your fixed budget.

Each school age child must attend school. Any Unexcused absence is a days pay deducted their benefits. They must attend parent teacher meetings. Any child that is on the honor roll for three consecutive semesters they get a 500.00 Bonus.

While on Government assistance if they do not have a HS diploma they must take classes and earn one. If they do not get one after a fixed period of time ( two years is my proposal) they lose a percentage of their benefits each month until they earn it.

Stay at home moms will be given chores to do in the neighborhood. Cleaning up, Helping the elderly, Babysitting if qualified. If they fail to do their jobs assigned without medical reasons they will lose a part of their benefits.

If they are convicted of any felony they lose all the benefits and the children are taken from them and placed in foster homes.


If you identify the father and he starts making child support payments They get 50% of whatever he pays on top of the benefits. The rest goes against the money being paid to you by the government.
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Old 12-24-2012, 8:28am   #269
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That's all well and good but one thing which needs to be added is if someone is sucking off the gov't tit for welfare, they don't get to vote. Pandering to those gov't tit suckers will dry up instantly.
That would require a constitutional amendment.

What I would love to see is a tax listed on EVERYONES paycheck First for all the Constitutional mandated parts of the Federal government. Then an individual tax for all the other Programs the Fed has added.

Watch how fast people start paying attention.
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