Photo ID & Voting

[Mark C5]

Originally Posted by TxAg

You are 100% incorrect.

Voting Rights Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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So there is no one who is denied the "right" to vote at all? Not a single person? That's your stance? See above for how incorrect you are and get back to us.

This is ridiculous. You seriously fail to see the difference between forfeiting your rights through criminal conduct and having your rights unconstitutionaly denied? If that's the case there is no point in discussing the issue, you have no comprehension.

I said every US Citizen is guaranteed equal rights. They are. If you chose to forfeit your rights through your voluntary conduct, that is on you. It is a whole different matter than having your rights denied.

[Mark C5]

Originally Posted by LarsAtTheBeach

welcome

he is a dick...and you wear it well.

As usual, lacking a coherent argument you are forced to resort to the personal attack.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Mark C5

This is ridiculous. You seriously fail to see the difference between forfeiting your rights through criminal conduct and having your rights unconstitutional denied? If that's the case there is no point in discussing the issue, you have no comprehension.

I said every US Citizen is guaranteed equal rights. They are. If you chose to forfeit your rights through your voluntary conduct, that is on you. It is a whole different matter than having your rights denied.

doubt you will get any disagreement with this post.

my original point...that Mr. Deep Thinker missed is, voting qualifications

do you feel there should be qualifications besides a fogged mirror?

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Mark C5

As usual, lacking a coherent argument you are forced to resort to the personal attack.

dude...it the internet.

get the sick out of your ass

[Joecooool]

I can not believe some of you are advocating taking away citizens right to vote.

Sometimes I wonder how past societies let themselves devolve into fascist states. Then I read threads like this and it becomes apparent that even today it could probably still happen again.

Thank you for reminding me why I'm a liberal.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Joecooool

I can not believe some of you are advocating taking away citizens right to vote.

Sometimes I wonder how past societies let themselves devolve into fascist states. Then I read threads like this and it becomes apparent that even today it could probably still happen again.

Thank you for reminding me why I'm a liberal.

do you feel there should be a qualifier to vote...

other than the fogged mirror?

[Mark C5]

Originally Posted by LarsAtTheBeach

doubt you will get any disagreement with this post.

my original point...that Mr. Deep Thinker missed is, voting qualifications

do you feel there should be qualifications besides a fogged mirror?

Yes I do feel there should be qualifications to vote. I believe you should be required to be a US Citizen and of military age. Yes, I am aware you can enlist at seventeen with parental consent and I think those who do should be allowed to vote.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Joecooool

I can not believe some of you are advocating taking away citizens right to vote.
Sometimes I wonder how past societies let themselves devolve into fascist states. Then I read threads like this and it becomes apparent that even today it could probably still happen again.

Thank you for reminding me why I'm a liberal.

no one is suggesting that at all.

some feel the vote should be a responsible one...and that responsibility should be qualified.

otherwise...you get a bunch of morons voting for "the popular" guy...or the "cool or good looking" candidate...

these folks have zero clue. a qualifier would force some to get a clue. and...if they have skin in the game, I promise you...they will get clued in real fast to protect their assets.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Mark C5

Yes I do feel there should be qualifications to vote. I believe you should be required to be a US Citizen and of military age. Yes, I am aware you can enlist at seventeen with parental consent and I think those who do should be allowed to vote.

so...

fogged mirror

got it

[Mark C5]

Originally Posted by LarsAtTheBeach

so...

fogged mirror

got it

Yes I did neglect to include that you be alive.

[RetiredSFC 97]

Why should someone be allowed to vote who only votes themself money from others? Theyaren't voting for the best candidate, they're voting money for themself.

That's an easy vote to make and the dems have exploited it. Make EVERYONE pay taxes and that problem is solved. Then vote away as long you are a citizen.

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by Mark C5

Yes I do feel there should be qualifications to vote. I believe you should be required to be a US Citizen and of military age. Yes, I am aware you can enlist at seventeen with parental consent and I think those who do should be allowed to vote.

The key qualifier to me is in bold... the liberals who keep pushing for illegals to have voting rights are the ones that are absolutely beyond ridiculous. The only other qualifier that I might see would limit it to all citizens who pay taxes. You contribute, you get a vote.

What do you say Joe? You are a proud liberal. Should all of the illegals get to vote for the dem of their choice?

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Mark C5

Yes I did neglect to include that you be alive.

your mindset is part of the problem


here is the solution:

Originally Posted by RetiredSFC 97

Why should someone be allowed to vote who only votes themself money from others? Theyaren't voting for the best candidate, they're voting money for themself.

That's an easy vote to make and the dems have exploited it. Make EVERYONE pay taxes and that problem is solved. Then vote away as long you are a citizen.

[Joecooool]

Originally Posted by RetiredSFC 97

Why should someone be allowed to vote who only votes themself money from others? Theyaren't voting for the best candidate, they're voting money for themself.

That's an easy vote to make and the dems have exploited it. Make EVERYONE pay taxes and that problem is solved. Then vote away as long you are a citizen.

Holy shit. You make it sound like republicans never vote their own pocket book.

I can guarentee you FAR more money has been given to conservatives in the form of defense contracts, subsidies, tax breaks etc than what is paid out in welfare. Its not even close.

Social Security and Medicare are services paid for by the people now using those services so its not welfare. Unemployment is paid for by your former employer. It's an equal number of republicans and democrats that pull from those funds.

[Joecooool]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

The key qualifier to me is in bold... the liberals who keep pushing for illegals to have voting rights are the ones that are absolutely beyond ridiculous. The only other qualifier that I might see would limit it to all citizens who pay taxes. You contribute, you get a vote.

What do you say Joe? You are a proud liberal. Should all of the illegals get to vote for the dem of their choice?

Of course not.

By the way most the the unwashed are Mexican Catholics and would probably vote conservative if given the chance.

But I believe felons once their sentence is complete should automatically have their voting rights restored.

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by LarsAtTheBeach

some feel the vote should be a responsible one...and that responsibility should be qualified.

Personally, I would love a responsible vote.

The last election is the most disturbing one in the history of this country IMO. I would be willing to bet a paycheck that more than half of the idiots who voted for Obama couldn't tell you what his stance was on even a single issue.

The problem is reality. Unfortunately, there is no realistic way to separate the idiots who vote for whoever MTV and Saturday Night Live tells them to from those who are voting for an educated reason.


I do find it very amusing that liberals know that an educated vote would be the end of them.

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by Joecooool

It's an equal number of republicans and democrats that pull from those funds.

Do you have anything even remotely close to backing that up or are you just making shit up and presenting your opinion as a fact?

[Joecooool]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

Personally, I would love a responsible vote.

The last election is the most disturbing one in the history of this country IMO. I would be willing to bet a paycheck that more than half of the idiots who voted for Obama couldn't tell you what his stance was on even a single issue.

The problem is reality. Unfortunately, there is no realistic way to separate the idiots who vote for whoever MTV and Saturday Night Live tells them to from those who are voting for an educated reason.


I do find it very amusing that liberals know that an educated vote would be the end of them.

If there was an "educated vote", George Bush Jr never would have been elected.

[Scissors]

Originally Posted by Will

If you have to pay anything, it's akin to a poll tax.

A stretch, but there's no way you'd get away with it if it went all the way to SCOTUS.

OUR ELECTION INTEGRITY IS WORTH CHECKING ID. States MUST combat this weakness by using a lesser evil than vote fraud - means testing for purposes of issuing IDs and granting them to impoverished citizens for free on the tax payers' dime.

Better to spend $8.50 a head on the Democrat's constituency and have Republicans win a legit election than lose in a fraud and pay them THOUSANDS a head thanks to Democratic theft and wealth redistribution.

Indeed.

[Joecooool]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

Do you have anything even remotely close to backing that up or are you just making shit up and presenting your opinion as a fact?

Let me get this straight.

You are actually asking me to prove that there are an equal number of republicans and democrats that pull from Social Security and Medicare?

Seriously?

Do all Republicans drop dead at 65?

Hell, I'd be willing to bet that since conservatives probably contribute more into SS, they take way more out.