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Old 07-24-2011, 4:41pm   #81
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Wow! I have never seen it so wide
I believe the all-time peak was around -24.
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Oh dear - the POS POTUS spoke last evening, calling the Republicans names, accusing them of being obstructiveness, etc. and basically gained 2 points

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I have a question ... I was always curious where you guys get these Rasmussen Polls as it always seems only the right-wingers have them to post ... is it true you have to be a premier member on Rasmussen to obtain them ... that is, you have to pay to obtain them ?


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I have a question ... I was always curious where you guys get these Rasmussen Polls as it always seems only the right-wingers have them to post ... is it true you have to be a premier member on Rasmussen to obtain them ... that is, you have to pay to obtain them ?




You have to pay for the cross-tabs, i.e. all the actual data collected.


You can get the overall results for free with the articles they post.


You get what you pay for. The pollsters that give everything away for free are garbage. Usually I look at their actual data, and sample sizes are too small, samples are too skewed towards one political party, etc.


There's a reason Rasmussen has been so profitable: politicians are actually willing to pay him because his polls are accurate, even when the result is something they won't want to hear.


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They use very good methods, and were the most accurate in 2004 and 2010, and among the most accurate in 2008.


I look forward to very accurate predictions and polling AGAIN for the 2012 election....


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Once again in 2010, Rasmussen Reports polling provided an accurate preview of Election Night outcomes....

In December 2009, a full 11 months before Election Day. A Democratic strategist concluded that if the Rasmussen Reports Generic Congressional Ballot data was accurate, Republicans would gain 62 seats in the House during the 2010 elections. Other polls at the time suggested the Democrats would retain a comfortable majority. The Republicans gained 63 seats in the 2010 elections....

In 2008, Obama won 53%-46% and our final poll showed Obama winning 52% to 46%. While we were pleased with the final result, Rasmussen Reports was especially pleased with the stability of our results. On every single day for the last six weeks of the campaign, our daily tracking showed Obama with a stable and solid lead attracting more than 50% of the vote....

In 2004 George W. Bush received 50.7% of the vote while John Kerry earned 48.3%. Rasmussen Reports polling projected that Bush would win 50.2% to 48.5%. We were the only firm to project both candidates' totals within half a percentage point....
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports™

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Final 2004 Rasmussen Presidential Election Poll: Bush 50.2% Kerry 48.5%
Actual Result: Bush 50.7% Kerry 48.3%


Final 2008 Rasmussen Presidential Election Poll: Obama 52% McCain 46%
Actual Result: Obama 53% McCain 46%
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You have to pay for the cross-tabs, i.e. all the actual data collected.

You can get the overall results for free with the articles they post.

You get what you pay for. The pollsters that give everything away for free are garbage. Usually I look at their actual data, and sample sizes are too small, samples are too skewed towards one political party, etc.

There's a reason Rasmussen has been so profitable: politicians are actually willing to pay him because his polls are accurate, even when the result is something they won't want to hear.
Thanks and I have another question ... this last Poll posted by AC54ME shows Obama at -19 ... what exactly does this mean ?

As an example, when Bush left office he had about 19%-20% approval rating ... I'd be hard-pressed to believe that at this time Obama is twice as worse ...
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Oh dear - the POS POTUS spoke last evening, calling the Republicans names, accusing them of being obstructiveness, etc. and basically gained 2 points

I'd be curious to see what bhoners speech did for his rating, I suspect more than 2 points improvement.
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Thanks and I have another question ... this last Poll posted by AC54ME shows Obama at -19 ... what exactly does this mean ?
It's an index Rasmussen is keeping track of - the GAP between strongly approve and strongly disapprove.

The important numbers, which you can get for free AND their complete daily history since day 1 of the Obama admin, are the straight Approve - Disapprove numbers.

They are here: Obama Approval Index History - Rasmussen Reports™


As of today, 44% Approve, 55% Disapprove
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Thanks and I have another question ... this last Poll posted by AC54ME shows Obama at -19 ... what exactly does this mean ?

As an example, when Bush left office he had about 19%-20% approval rating ... I'd be hard-pressed to believe that at this time Obama is twice as worse ...
no wonder you have such difficulties debating the issues...

you can't understand a chart with the facts.
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no wonder you have such difficulties debating the issues...

you can't understand a chart with the facts.
I was just curious ... I mean, that seaguy on the other forum has about 26,000 + posts on his Rasmussen thread thats been showing Obama as a long gone daddy in the U.S.A. for years now ... yet stands to come-in again in 2012 ...

So yes, I can see how you would see that debating you hosts difficulties ... good thing I'm as cool as Obama ...

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Obama Job Approval Average Slides to New Low in 11th Quarter
Prior low was 45% in his seventh quarter
by Jeffrey M. Jones

PRINCETON, NJ -- President Barack Obama's 11th quarter in office was the worst of his administration, based on his quarterly average job approval ratings. His 41% approval average is down six percentage points from his 10th quarter in office, and is nearly four points below his previous low of 45% during his seventh quarter.

These results are based on Gallup Daily tracking from July 20-Oct. 19, 2011. During this time, Obama's approval rating ranged narrowly between 38% and 43% for all but a few days of the quarter. The 38% approval ratings, registered on several occasions, are the lowest of his presidency to date.

The most notable event in Obama's 11th quarter was probably the negotiations to raise the federal debt ceiling in late July and early August. Shortly after the agreement was reached, the stock market plummeted after Standard and Poor's downgraded the U.S. credit rating. Later, the government's jobs report showed no new net jobs were created in August, a sign the economy was still a long way from recovery. The president has been unsuccessful so far in getting Congress to pass the jobs bill he proposed in early September.

Only one elected president since Dwight D. Eisenhower, Jimmy Carter, had a lower 11th quarter average than Obama. Carter averaged 31% during his 11th quarter, which was marked by a poor economy and high energy prices. Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton were the only other post-World War II presidents whose job approval averages were below 50% in their 11th quarter in office.

Eleventh-Quarter Job Approval Averages of Elected Presidents, Eisenhower-Obama

Notably, Reagan's and Clinton's popular support recovered and both were elected to a second term. Carter's support also improved in the short term, thanks to a rally in approval after the Iranian hostage crisis began, but as that crisis dragged on and the economy remained weak, his approval rating eventually declined before he was defeated in the 1980 election.

Obama's re-election prospects should become clearer in the coming months, because Gallup analysis shows that an incumbent president's 12th- and 13th-quarter averages give a strong indication of whether he will win a second term.

From a broader historical perspective, Obama's 11th-quarter approval average of 41% ranks 220th out of the 262 presidential quarters for which Gallup has data since the Truman administration. That translates to the 16th percentile, placing it in the bottom fifth of presidential quarters. Thus, Obama's recent approval ratings are well below average.

Obama's approval rating for his entire term to date now averages 50%.

Implications

President Obama's most recent quarter in office was his worst to date, and these lower levels of public support could put his re-election chances in peril unless things start to improve in the next few months. Currently, voters say they are more likely to vote for "the Republican candidate" than for Obama for president in 2012, though Obama has generally looked stronger when matched against actual Republican candidates like Mitt Romney or Rick Perry.

Americans' satisfaction with the direction of the country remains at historically low levels, and Americans clearly identify the economy and unemployment as the most important problems facing the United States. Thus, a second Obama term likely hinges on whether there are signs of economic progress in the coming months.

Survey Methods

Results are based on telephone interviews conducted as part of Gallup Daily tracking July 20-Oct. 19, 2011, with a random sample of 45,989 adults, aged 18 and older, living in all 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia.

For results based on the total sample of national adults, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum margin of sampling error is ±1 percentage point.

Interviews are conducted with respondents on landline telephones and cellular phones, with interviews conducted in Spanish for respondents who are primarily Spanish-speaking. Each sample includes a minimum quota of 400 cell phone respondents and 600 landline respondents per 1,000 national adults, with additional minimum quotas among landline respondents by region. Landline telephone numbers are chosen at random among listed telephone numbers. Cell phone numbers are selected using random-digit-dial methods. Landline respondents are chosen at random within each household on the basis of which member had the most recent birthday.

Samples are weighted by gender, age, race, Hispanic ethnicity, education, region, adults in the household, and phone status (cell phone only/landline only/both, cell phone mostly, and having an unlisted landline number). Demographic weighting targets are based on the March 2010 Current Population Survey figures for the aged 18 and older non-institutionalized population living in U.S. telephone households. All reported margins of sampling error include the computed design effects for weighting and sample design.

The questions reported here were asked of a random half-sample of respondents each night on the Gallup Daily tracking survey.

In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.

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Right now we’re nowhere near where we need to be in order to make a significant dent in the unemployment rate. (To bring it down a percentage point over a year takes roughly 200,000 additional jobs per month.) In addition, unemployment has been at or above 9 percent for 28 out of the last 30 month, with no relief in sight. The Obama administration not only promised the unemployment wouldn’t exceed 8 percent if its stimulus package passed; based on their projections, the unemployment rate today should be right around 6.5 percent.


Rex Nutting, a columnist and MarketWatch’s international commentary editor, points out that the economy is creating jobs so slowly that at the current pace of hiring (an average of 119,000 jobs per month in 2011), the unemployment rate would stay stuck at 9 percent for five more years. The pace of hiring is so weak, in fact, that the economy wouldn’t get back to full employment (around 6 percent) until 2023. If we hope to bring the jobless rate back down to 6 percent by the end of 2014, we’d need job growth about twice as strong as it’s been (244,000 a month v. 119,000).

It’s reasonable to assume that Mr. Obama will face re-election with the highest unemployment rate of any post-war president. If the current rate of hiring continues, under Mr. Obama’s stewardship the nation will have actually lost jobs, a stunning achievement in its own way.
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Dive! Obidiot DIVE!!!


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Let us not forget:

Obama gone means NOTHING unless Congress is staffed with Conservatives.

Nothing, and I mean nothing will be rectified if a RINO, or conservative, or another idiot like BHO is in the WH and Congress critters are still, well critters.

Only Congress can take actions to rescind the idiotic socialist/communist/welfare state the present and past Congresses have imposed.

And that's a fact.
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