Gonna Fly 'Til the Wheels Come Off: 737 Max Landing Gear Collapses on Landing

[Vette40th]

They put crime scene tape around the tire. What a fricking absolute waste. The securing mechanism came off, due to catastrophic failure or lack of torquing properly.

[Bill]

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/are...on-rcna142525#

Aviation incidents seem to be proliferating, but experts say there's no reason for alarm

[6spdC6]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/are...on-rcna142525#

Is it possible a case of affirmative action hiring?

[Bill]

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Only a matter of time before wheels go missing and planes get put on cinder blocks

[zsr22]

I swore off flying years ago. If I can't drive, count me out.

[Joey777]

Originally Posted by 6spdC6

Is it possible a case of affirmative action hiring?

Thats the conundrum that confronts companies that adopt DEI programs. DEI may not have had anything at all do to with the incidents which happened recently. However, the public remembers hearing CEO’s saying we need xxxxxx new employees and xx% will be DEI hires. How about you select the best and brightest from your pool of candidates regardless if black, white, or purple!.

[Bill]

[zsr22]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

Do you think they blamed the male passengers when they inevitably got lost halfway to their destination?

[Datawiz]

United is my go to airline, but based on the epic number of failures they've had in the past week alone, I'm now questioning them as a vendor. As others have said, they've made a huge push in DEI, and now I think it's kicking them in the ass.

[Bill]

https://www.kansas.com/opinion/opn-c...286226160.html

As Boeing looks to buy back Spirit AeroSystems Wichita plant, bitter memories resurface | Opinion Profile Image of Dion Lefler By Dion Lefler March 05, 2024 5:15 AM Johnnie Jones, of Wichita, is overcome with emotion after receiving a letter Saturday morning informing him that his employment at Boeing has been terminated after 32 years as an assembler. PHOTO BY RANDY TOBIAS, The Wichita Eagle. Johnnie Jones, of Wichita, is overcome with emotion after receiving a letter Saturday morning informing him that his employment at Boeing has been terminated after 32 years as an assembler. PHOTO BY RANDY TOBIAS, The Wichita Eagle. Randy Tobias Wichita Eagle file photo As Spirit AeroSystems and Boeing Co. engage in talks for Boeing to re-acquire what was once its Wichita plant, let me take you back to one of the most emotionally wrenching days I ever had to cover as a journalist here. It was Saturday, March 21, 2005, to be exact. It was a day I spent sitting on porches in south Wichita with Boeing employees as DHL Express delivered packages carrying news of whether they should report to work the Monday after Boeing divested itself of its Wichita plant. I remember watching that bright yellow DHL truck as it moved down the street, stopping at every few houses to deliver those packages. And I remember the tears of the displaced workers, who were generally older and better paid after spending decades sweating and bleeding for Boeing — and thinking that their company had their back. Workers like Johnnie D. Jones, a 32-year Boeing employee who wept when he got the letter from Mid-Western Aircraft Systems, the placeholder name for what had been Boeing’s Wichita division, later renamed Spirit AeroSystems. “We regret to inform you that you will not receive an employment offer from Mid-Western Aircraft Systems at this time,” Jones’ termination letter said. “Thank you for your interest in the new company and for participating in the employment process.” Jones, 60, had been a dedicated soldier of the Cold War. He started with Boeing in 1972, refitting and modernizing B-52 bombers, a key element of the U.S. nuclear deterrent force that kept the Soviet Union in check. He suspected he was on the chopping block after he was abruptly transferred from the military division, which Boeing didn’t sell, to a low-level job in the civilian aircraft plant that was being sold to Onex Corp., a Canadian investment firm that acted as the middleman to do Boeing’s dirty work. The underlying reason for the sale was that Boeing wanted to cut costs by abrogating its labor contracts with its Wichita workforce. The sale gave Onex a free hand to make them all reapply for their jobs, shedding the higher-paid line workers and renegotiating contracts with the survivors. It wasn’t long until the successor company started pestering the Legislature for job-training money to prepare workers for its factory floor. As I watched that unfold in Topeka, I remember thinking to myself, “You had a trained workforce — what did you do with it?” Point of interest: Onex made $3.2 billion on its Wichita adventure from 2005 to 2014, when it sold off its last remaining stake in Spirit. It’s been as shameless an exercise in corporate greed and callousness as I’ve ever seen, and I covered the demise of the aircraft industry in Southern California, which crashed and burned after the Soviet Union ceased to exist. Now, 19 years later, the sins of the past are on approach at Boeing. It’s a truism in any industry that rampant cost-cutting sooner or later leads to degradation of product quality. If you’re making picnic coolers or car stereos, two other things that Wichita used to be famous for, the consequences aren’t all that severe. But when you make airplanes, every single working part has to be right every single time, or people can die. Spirit’s signature product is the fuselage for the troubled 737 Max jet. Right now, 171 of those planes are grounded after an Alaska Airlines jet made an emergency landing when a plug that was installed in place of an optional door blew out of the side of the aircraft in mid-flight. It was terrifying and traumatizing for the passengers, but we can be thankful that the seat belt light was on and none of them were killed. That incident followed other quality issues coming out of the Spirit plant, including misdrilled holes in pressure bulkheads that were discovered last year and are the subject of an ongoing class-action lawsuit. That followed revelations of problems with tail fittings for the plane. For Boeing, the Alaska Airlines blowout was the latest in a series of quality control fails, the most serious being the mass grounding of 737 Max planes from March 2019 to November 2020, after botched software in overseas airliners caused two crashes that killed 346 people. Boeing, you’ve got a long way to go to get your mojo back. Buying back the Wichita plant would be a start, but it’s only a start. What you’re really going to need going forward is skilled and conscientious line workers who care about quality, do things right, and are confident enough to speak up when something goes wrong — guys like Johnnie D. Jones. But it won’t be him. He died in 2009, four years after you sent the DHL truck to his house.

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[GRN ENVY]

Originally Posted by Datawiz

United is my go to airline, but based on the epic number of failures they've had in the past week alone, I'm now questioning them as a vendor. As others have said, they've made a huge push in DEI, and now I think it's kicking them in the ass.

I'll give you another reason not to use them. I flew on a direct flight from Denver to Fort Myers first week of December. My flight started boarding at 930. Got on, and we sat at the gate for an hour while they had to test a motor for oil leak. The plane didn't meet parameters so we had to get off. They pulled a 2nd plane from a maitenance hanger. We got on that one at 1pm. Took off, and 1.5 hours into the flight, we declared emergency due to a loss of hydraulics ( which I believe United had that this week again). So we landed in Oklahoma city. We had to wait 6 hours for an empty plane from Dallas to come get us and fly us to Fort Myers. What should have been a single plane and 3.5 hour flight, took a total of 3 planes and just over 18 hours to get me home.

Oh and United was kind enough to give me a whole whopping $50 for the inconvienance. I sent my survey and got it up to a $200 voucher. But I'm not seeing a reason to fly with united anytime soon.

Basically united has been having issues long before this week. My leg above was the 737 max.... par for the course with Boeing

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