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03-28-2024, 9:25am | #2221 | |||||||||||
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[quote=RedLS1GTO;2238399]So that righteous indignation and idealistic honesty only goes 1 way. Got it. Customers lying to dealers is perfectly ok.
[quote]A dealer is a professional. They have staff that looks at trades. They won't take a customer by their word. There is a different expectancy of honesty between individuals and a business. Quote:
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While the terms are far from favorable, it serves a purpose for a segment of consumers. I have a nephew, good kid, 20 years old, working almost 40 hours / week at new car dealership while in college. He sold 6 cars this past weekend, and could only finance 1 of the 6. Not every consumer has 800 scores and a football of money in their pant's pocket, and those who do not are thankful when financing can be offered. |
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How can you prove that the dealer did it?
Also, there would only be a case if I actually buy the car as otherwise, I wasn't harmed and have no case. All that you can see in the carfax was the mileage going up for years until it hit like 250k miles. Then the carfax showed that the car was auctioned. 2 months later, the car is listed for sale with 95k miles. How do you prove who did it? |
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I was referencing your post in which you stated the odometer being changed.
BTW, in all types of business, not only vehicle sales, I am VERY aware that you have no pursuit unless an offer was made in writing. And even for tv, radio and print ads there is ALWAYS a disclaimer. |
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I also shopped for a beater truck around the same time and there was this S10 at a small dealer (maybe 20 cars on the lot) and it showed like 120k miles but the carfax showed over 300k miles. This was a while ago, so I don't recall details but what I recall 100% is that both times, the odometer did not match the carfax. |
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If you cannot provide proof the them, you should not state in here that you know they are doing it. |
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The current owner cannot be labelled as the fraudulent party, unless you can prove they are the fraudulent party. |
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Back then, on many cars, you could just swap the car's computer to one from a lower mileage car and you would roll back the miles. |
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exactly.. My concern was getting screwed. I wasn't worried about going after them legally. I ALWAYS run carfax if the dealer doesn't provide one. It's money well spent. It's not just rolled back odometer but accidents as well and other information. Carfax is not perfect and not everything shows but things like mileage rollback can be easily detected.
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Well, that's different. A sample size of 3 from 15 years ago is proof positive that it's very common now. |
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It's that simple. You're making shit up. And the best part of it is that after all of your talk of being a "seasoned buyer", you are too ignorant to realize that you fell for the most misleading bullshit in the entire auto industry. Carfax. Do you know who told you that it was a red flag? Carfax told you. Let that sink in for a minute. Carfax marketing told you that not having a Carfax is a red flag. Where do you think Carfax inputs come from? Carfax is garbage. Quote:
Changing an ECU (I assume that's what you meant) doesn't change the mileage. That's not how it works. Maybe you should try to educate yourself before posting more ignorant nonsense. Quote:
Can't lie. You falling that hard for blatantly misleading marketing after all of this really makes me laugh. |
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The only experiences with new car dealers in the last couple of years were the ones I posted about... the one with BRANDON HYUNDAI that agreed with me on a price and then wanted to jack it up when I refused their low ball offer on my trade. The one with HYUNDAI of Ocala that lied to me about their IONIQ 5's not having mark ups on the phone and the recent experience at a local Ford dealer that the lower priced Ford Lightning didn't have the tax credit. I do give him the benefit of the doubt that he didn't know but as someone in that profession, he should know. Again, I also said that I had a positive experience with dealers but those experiences were with dealers outside of Florida. As I said before, Massey Hyundai in Hagerstown/MD was fantastic including my sales guy. 100% honest and never misleading in any way. |
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For instance, your neighbor's body shop fixes your front-end collision, you tell him not to put it on carfax, he agrees as no one else will know. Another, you take your bent frame pickup truck to vladimar's suspension shop after your wife goes airborne for 50 feet off a speed bump. vlad advises he can get it back to 90% factory spec, gives you a price, gives you another price, a little higher, so that he will report the damage and inadequate repair, you agree to the higher price as you want to sell it once repair it done. vlad agrees but only if you pay him upfront AND give him a jug handle of smirnoff's, you agree, all is good, the sucka who buys your truck will never know. carfax IS NOT golden!! |
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