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Old 06-08-2023, 8:04pm   #21
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I served 23 years in the Marine Corps and never saw a General or a Colonel insulting people like that. A POTUS ought to be an ultimate professional.

I supported TRUMP, and that also got me banned from the CF, but this man do have mental problems.
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Leadership, not Trump being Trump. The later is why he's in trouble again today, it could have all been avoided just like it was with Pence. Simply cooperate and find a different battle to fall on your sword over, maybe one that matters.
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Personally, I think the main reason Trump decided to run again is in an attempt to avoid getting indicted. That hasn't worked out so far except that he can now claim election interference.

Trump really needs to bow out of the primaries and focus on handling these current and possible future indictments. Endorse someone and become the kingmaker instead of trying to be the king again.
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Personally, I think the main reason Trump decided to run again is in an attempt to avoid getting indicted. That hasn't worked out so far except that he can now claim election interference.

Trump really needs to bow out of the primaries and focus on handling these current and possible future indictments. Endorse someone and become the kingmaker instead of trying to be the king again.
I agree, but either you are right about his motives so he can't or he just can't back down. Either way 2024 is setting up to be a mess.
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Personally, I think the main reason Trump decided to run again is in an attempt to avoid getting indicted. That hasn't worked out so far except that he can now claim election interference.

Trump really needs to bow out of the primaries and focus on handling these current and possible future indictments. Endorse someone and become the kingmaker instead of trying to be the king again.
They would have left him alone if he didn’t run again.
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Hate to say this but i sort of hope he gets found guilty of something... just so he might shut up and go away.
So you support a possible injustice because you just don’t like someone.
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Yep, we have a parallel situation here. We are in the middle of a Marxist revolution, and if you reject that that then you are rejecting history.

Famous last words: "It can't happen here!"

If they manage to imprison Trump, and the next president is a Democrat, WE ARE NEXT on the chopping block.

This political persecution isn't just going to go away. Marxists want complete and total control and ownership of EVERYTHING and they will stop at nothing. The only reason they haven't gone farther yet, is they know there's 300-400 million guns in private hands out there. But in the long run, that won't scare them.



But we're way WAY too comfortable yet to resist. We have plenty to eat, and we still have a fair amount of freedom so they will keep coming.

"When the monster comes, he comes for everybody."
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So you support a possible injustice because you just don’t like someone.
And the injustice is?
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Nothing will happen to Biden while he is POTUS. That is one of the many reasons the Republicans have to win in 2024. They need to win the White House and the Senate (and keep the House). Then clean house and indict everyone.

If Trump is guilty, he should get convicted. Same for Biden. If you really want revenge and for Biden, etc. to get indicted, the best way to get that done is to support someone other than Trump for the Republican nomination.
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Nothing will happen to Biden while he is POTUS. That is one of the many reasons the Republicans have to win in 2024. They need to win the White House and the Senate (and keep the House). Then clean house and indict everyone.

If Trump is guilty, he should get convicted. Same for Biden. If you really want revenge and for Biden, etc. to get indicted, the best way to get that done is to support someone other than Trump for the Republican nomination.
Other career politicians won’t go after Biden.
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Nothing will happen to Biden while he is POTUS. That is one of the many reasons the Republicans have to win in 2024. They need to win the White House and the Senate (and keep the House). Then clean house and indict everyone.

If Trump is guilty, he should get convicted. Same for Biden. If you really want revenge and for Biden, etc. to get indicted, the best way to get that done is to support someone other than Trump for the Republican nomination.
No. Presidency should not be about revenge. That’s what is wrong with trump too.

It should be about progress and looking forward.
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Other career politicians won’t go after Biden.
I think DeSantis would.

I actually question if Trump would though. Remember how he promised to go after Hillary and then didn't?
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I think DeSantis would.
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The weaponization of federal law enforcement represents a mortal threat to a free society.

We have for years witnessed an uneven application of the law depending upon political affiliation.

Why so zealous in pursuing Trump yet so passive about Hillary or Hunter?

The DeSantis administration will bring accountability to the DOJ, excise political bias and end weaponization once and for all.
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I think DeSantis would.

I actually question if Trump would though. Remember how he promised to go after Hillary and then didn't?
I don’t have the same faith as you in DeSantis. You are correct about the Hillary situation. He delivered more than expected even though he was surrounded by backstabbers.
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Oh look, someone who can make a solid argument without looking like a child through a tantrum.
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I don’t have the same faith as you in DeSantis. You are correct about the Hillary situation. He delivered more than expected even though he was surrounded by backstabbers.
It is fair to be uncertain about DeSantis as POTUS. Being POTUS is much different than being the governor of Florida. However, he has a history of doing what he says and not backing down.

Would Trump go scorched earth if he wins again? Maybe, but he has a history of talking a big game but not executing when it comes to the deep state. All it takes is someone kissing his ass and he backs off.

Biden needs to be held accountable. Same for Wray and others. Biden winning again (or Newsom/Harris/whomever) and that will never happen.
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Here's another example of banana republic. This is the gay dude who has been campaigning for Trump and Republicans zealously. He's true grass roots. And lawfare is being used against him, too:



I seriously doubt this gay dude who is very well known, beat the shit out of 8 officers. C'mon, man!


What's happening is weaponizing the legal system against political enemies. I don't get why some of you seem to be celebrating that, or blaming the victims.

If the corrupt sheriff stole your car, robbed your house, rustled your cattle, and raped your wife, would you want the rest of us to blame you for causing so much drama and problems? After all, if you'd have just quietly left town, the sheriff wouldn't have had to do all that to you. You're the bad person, not the crooked sheriff who keeps hitting you.



Edit: Here's a real life example of what being targeted unfairly actually looks lie:


Pasco County, Florida Sheriff's Dept.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...-trumps-valet/



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The lawyer for Donald Trump’s valet, under scrutiny in the Mar-a-Lago documents investigation, has submitted court papers describing a meeting at which a top federal prosecutor brought up his application to be a judge when they tried to gain the valet’s cooperation last year, according to three people familiar with the matter.

The allegation, described in a letter filed under seal with the chief US judge in Washington, James Boasberg, could affect the investigation just as prosecutors are considering whether to bring charges…

…At issue is an incident that took place last year, around November, when prosecutors were trying to gain the cooperation of valet Walt Nauta, who has been under scrutiny because prosecutors suspected he helped the former president conceal classified documents that had been subpoenaed.

Nauta had already spoken to prosecutors in the investigation when they called his lawyer Stanley Woodward and summoned him to a meeting at justice department headquarters for an urgent matter that they were reluctant to discuss over the phone, the letter said.

When Woodward arrived at the conference room, he was seated across from several prosecutors working on the investigation, including the chief of the counterintelligence section, Jay Bratt, who explained that they wanted Nauta to cooperate with the government against Trump, the letter said.

Nauta should cooperate with the government because he had given potentially conflicting testimony that could result in a false statements charge, the prosecutors said according to the letter. Woodward is said to have demurred, disputing that Nauta had made false statements.

Bratt then turned to Woodward and remarked that he did not think that Woodward was a “Trump guy” and that “he would do the right thing”, before noting that he knew Woodward had submitted an application to be a judge at the superior court in Washington DC that was currently pending, the letter said.
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Here's another example of banana republic. This is the gay dude who has been campaigning for Trump and Republicans zealously. He's true grass roots. And lawfare is being used against him, too:



I seriously doubt this gay dude who is very well known, beat the shit out of 8 officers. C'mon, man!


What's happening is weaponizing the legal system against political enemies. I don't get why some of you seem to be celebrating that, or blaming the victims.

If the corrupt sheriff stole your car, robbed your house, rustled your cattle, and raped your wife, would you want the rest of us to blame you for causing so much drama and problems? After all, if you'd have just quietly left town, the sheriff wouldn't have had to do all that to you. You're the bad person, not the crooked sheriff who keeps hitting you.
They don't have to win or even have a credible case in a civil suit, just have to tie you up in damaged reputation, legal costs, time invested....
NEVER FORGET: "The Process IS The Punishment"
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