This is what the Assoc. of American Physicians and Surgeons were saying...

[Little Red L98.]

Originally Posted by Mick

Yup, as a heterosexual male, I know a ***** when I see one.

Ok since you don’t do nuance, let me spell it out for you: you are a pussy’s *****. Clear enough?

[Jeff '79]

Originally Posted by Little Red L98.

Ok since you don’t do nuance, let me spell it out for you: you are a pussy’s *****. Clear enough?

[snide]

Originally Posted by Mick

Yup, as a heterosexual male, I know a ***** when I see one.

[Little Red L98.]

Originally Posted by LisaJohn

I don’t think there was much profit for $5 mask. Buying material and elastic. Gas, wear and tear on vehicle (assuming they drove for materials). Thread and electricity for sewing machine. Envelope and ziplock bag to mail mask. Driving to post office to mail mask. Time $$$. I think my MM mask was a bargain!

Someone in my neighborhood was giving them away for free. Just as nice. Various patterns. Double layer cloth. I tried to give her money or donate fabric, but she would not accept.

[snide]

[Mick]

Originally Posted by LisaJohn

I don’t think there was much profit for $5 mask. Buying material and elastic. Gas, wear and tear on vehicle (assuming they drove for materials). Thread and electricity for sewing machine. Envelope and ziplock bag to mail mask. Driving to post office to mail mask. Time $$$. I think my MM mask was a bargain!

Oh come on! You know they are going to be moving up to the next sized yacht with the profits from those masks!

Originally Posted by Little Red L98.

Ok since you don’t do nuance, let me spell it out for you: you are a pussy’s *****. Clear enough?

I do nuance just fine, I don't do ad hominem attacks. But apparently you do. You sure are a tough guy, aren't you?

If you're such a tough guy, and have something to say to Snide, why don't you just say it? Why "nuance" it like a ***** and then lash out when you get called on it?

I'm starting to understand to whom Sandy's warning was directed.

[snide]

Originally Posted by LisaJohn

I don’t think there was much profit for $5 mask. Buying material and elastic. Gas, wear and tear on vehicle (assuming they drove for materials). Thread and electricity for sewing machine. Envelope and ziplock bag to mail mask. Driving to post office to mail mask. Time $$$. I think my MM mask was a bargain!

Thank you Lisa!

[Little Red L98.]

Originally Posted by snide

I know a ***** when I smell one. His probably stinks. Don’t want to know firsthand.

[Little Red L98.]

Originally Posted by Mick

Oh come on! You know they are going to be moving up to the next sized yacht with the profits from those masks!



I do nuance just fine, I don't do ad hominem attacks. But apparently you do. You sure are a tough guy, aren't you?

If you're such a tough guy, and have something to say to Snide, why don't you just say it? Why "nuance" it like a ***** and then lash out when you get called on it?

I'm starting to understand to whom Sandy's warning was directed.

You don’t do ad hominem attacks? Tell me another one because that’s funny as hell.

[Mick]

Originally Posted by Little Red L98.

You don’t do ad hominem attacks? Tell me another one because that’s funny as hell.

You don't actually know what "ad hominem" means, do you?

[Little Red L98.]

Originally Posted by Mick

You don't actually know what "ad hominem" means, do you?

Ok fine, you just do regular attacks. Got it.

[The_Dude]

What we need here is a Skanky Psychologist.

[Little Red L98.]

Originally Posted by The_Dude

What we need here is a Skanky Psychologist.

One wouldn’t be enough unfortunately.

[Little Red L98.]

Originally Posted by Mick

Oh come on! You know they are going to be moving up to the next sized yacht with the profits from those masks!



I do nuance just fine, I don't do ad hominem attacks. But apparently you do. You sure are a tough guy, aren't you?

If you're such a tough guy, and have something to say to Snide, why don't you just say it? Why "nuance" it like a ***** and then lash out when you get called on it?

I'm starting to understand to whom Sandy's warning was directed.

I said what I had to say to snide just fine. Where the hell did you go.

[sasnglass77]

Originally Posted by Little Red L98.

Someone in my neighborhood was giving them away for free. Just as nice. Various patterns. Double layer cloth. I tried to give her money or donate fabric, but she would not accept.

That's very noble. However, not all of us had material laying around. BTW, if the person did any research on making masks the triple layer for the 100% cotton mask was the preferred way. Any maybe she is more of a crafter than I am and had elastic stock piled. I had to purchase fitted sheets to harvest elastic, and guess what the stores made me pay for them .

So asking for a donation to cover materials that allowed me to make them for others is NOT profiteering. I offered them because we couldn't locate any and thought as the lock downs spread others would find themselves in the same position and maybe not have the ability to make them.


Sorry, I'm just a little offended.

[Little Red L98.]

Originally Posted by sasnglass77

That's very noble. However, not all of us had material laying around. BTW, if the person did any research on making masks the triple layer for the 100% cotton mask was the preferred way. Any maybe she is more of a crafter than I am and had elastic stock piled. I had to purchase fitted sheets to harvest elastic, and guess what the stores made me pay for them .

So asking for a donation to cover materials that allowed me to make them for others is NOT profiteering. I offered them because we couldn't locate any and thought as the lock downs spread others would find themselves in the same position and maybe not have the ability to make them.


Sorry, I'm just a little offended.

They are double layer with ties, no elastic. We got two. I practically insisted I give them something for them. She wouldn’t have it. I will just pay it forward.

Paying for shipping I can see, paying to cover your expenses and maybe make a buck or two I can see. I was just ****ing with snide. Sorry to offend someone the post wasn’t intended for.

[MrPeabody]

Originally Posted by sasnglass77

That's very noble. However, not all of us had material laying around. BTW, if the person did any research on making masks the triple layer for the 100% cotton mask was the preferred way. Any maybe she is more of a crafter than I am and had elastic stock piled. I had to purchase fitted sheets to harvest elastic, and guess what the stores made me pay for them .

So asking for a donation to cover materials that allowed me to make them for others is NOT profiteering. I offered them because we couldn't locate any and thought as the lock downs spread others would find themselves in the same position and maybe not have the ability to make them.


Sorry, I'm just a little offended.

Having watched my wife make a couple hundred masks, I doubt $5 per mask would cover minimum wage. We got fabric donated, so much that we gave much of it to other people making masks. We bought elastic from Amazon online. Spent about $80 there, but we still have lots left. Buying was tricky because we did not know how many masks we were making and whether we would be able to get more supplies later because of possible shortages and demand.

We put changeable filters in our masks which we made by taking apart high dollar furnace filters. (tedious work) Over $100 wrapped up in those, but we also over bought on those for the above reasons. No complaints because the hospital reimbursed us for all our purchases, but not our labor, of course, because we are volunteers.

Sure, we could have sold them, but I bet I could have made more money per hour panhandling. Five dollars was a steal on your masks, especially with free shipping.

[sasnglass77]

Originally Posted by Little Red L98.

They are double layer with ties, no elastic. We got two. I practically insisted I give them something for them. She wouldn’t have it. I will just pay it forward.

Paying for shipping I can see, paying to cover your expenses and maybe make a buck or two I can see. I was just ****ing with snide. Sorry to offend someone the post wasn’t intended for.

I'm his wife and the person who made them, so you can see how I took it personally.

[Little Red L98.]

Originally Posted by sasnglass77

I'm his wife and the person who made them, so you can see how I took it personally.

Gotcha. Seriously, I am sorry if I offended either one of you. Thanks for doing it.

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by Little Red L98.

Someone in my neighborhood was giving them away for free. Just as nice. Various patterns. Double layer cloth. I tried to give her money or donate fabric, but she would not accept.

Could you not afford to buy one?

Capitalism - Selling masks in a competitive market and maximizing return on investment based on an understanding of the market

Profiteering - Selling at a maximum price when competition does not exist or where supply has been intentionally manipulated

Freeloading _ taking a product for nothing when you can afford to buy it, thereby preventing someone that can't afford it, from possibly obtaining it.