Ford's biggest SUV gets bigger...

[C5SilverBullet]

Originally Posted by vetteman9368

And there's another problem.

[Stangkiller]

Originally Posted by vetteman9368

And there's another problem.

Originally Posted by C5SilverBullet

Yup that was my point I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I spend 2hrs a day in my vehicle I damned well better be comfortable and enjoy being in it.

[polarbear]

Originally Posted by C5SilverBullet

GM accounts for 75% of all large SUV sales.

GM own's this segment.

[Mike Mercury]

the 5.3 has had one nagging issue (though it's not a deal breaker)... oil consumption on models that have DoD; aka: 4 cyl mode.

You just gave to check oil level religiously; or it will sneak down on you.

[Stangkiller]

Originally Posted by Mike Mercury

the 5.3 has had one nagging issue (though it's not a deal breaker)... oil consumption on models that have DoD; aka: 4 cyl mode.

You just gave to check oil level religiously; or it will sneak down on you.

The 5.3 uses the 6speed transmission to make up for lack of power, the end result is constant hunting for the right gear and never really finding it. I even test drove the 5.3 with the towing gear, it helped some but just wasn't enough. The 6.2 not only has enough power the 8speed transmission is very quick and smooth.

[vetteman9368]

Originally Posted by C5SilverBullet

The only cool v6. Ever

[Stangkiller]

Originally Posted by vetteman9368

The only cool v6. Ever

The typhoon was only 3800lbs the Tahoe is 5600.

[vetteman9368]

That's a turbo Buick logo. But the syclone I had was fun

[Stangkiller]

Originally Posted by vetteman9368

That's a turbo Buick logo. But the syclone I had was fun

Yup, but in all fairness GM did make a turbo 6cyl mini suv, and they are rather sought after these days.

[Mike Mercury]

Originally Posted by TxAg

Hmmm....wasn't ware of this but will keep an eye on it.

on the truck forums, a common mod for the 5.3 oil consumption issue is to disable DoD.

My 2008 Avalanche 5.3 had it bad, about one quart every 600-700 miles. My 2012 replacement Avalanche 5.3 is more like every 1000-1200 miles.

Two updates were done on the 5.3, a different drivers side valve cover (with added internal baffles) and an added baffle in the oil pan. I replaced the valve cover on my 2008 and it helped. But the oil pan upgrade involved removal, and on 4wd models it required removing part of the drivetrain to get oilpan off; so I didn't do that part.

[vetteman9368]

Originally Posted by Stangkiller

Yup, but in all fairness GM did make a turbo 6cyl mini suv, and they are rather sought after these days.

That is true. I had one. Wish I still had it.

[C5SilverBullet]

Originally Posted by Stangkiller

Yup that was my point I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I spend 2hrs a day in my vehicle I damned well better be comfortable and enjoy being in it.

Originally Posted by Stangkiller

The 5.3 uses the 6speed transmission to make up for lack of power, the end result is constant hunting for the right gear and never really finding it. I even test drove the 5.3 with the towing gear, it helped some but just wasn't enough. The 6.2 not only has enough power the 8speed transmission is very quick and smooth.

Says Ford needs a V8...complains about GM's V8.

[C5SilverBullet]

BTW, the Ecoboost in the new Expedition will have more power and better fuel economy than the current version.

[Stangkiller]

Originally Posted by C5SilverBullet

Says Ford needs a V8...complains about GM's V8.

Yup pointing out a small v8 wasn't sufficient, as evidenced by the vehicle I finally purchased.

[C5SilverBullet]

Originally Posted by Stangkiller

Yup pointing out a small v8 wasn't sufficient, as evidenced by the vehicle I finally purchased.

It isn't sufficient, that is why Ford isn't using a small V8, they're using a turbo V6 that makes nearly 100ft/lb of torque more.

GM 5.3L
355 HP
383 TQ

GM 6.2L
420 HP
460 TQ

Ford 3.5L
375 HP
470 TQ

[The_Dude]

I want an Excursion.

[Stangkiller]

Originally Posted by C5SilverBullet

It isn't sufficient, that is why Ford isn't using a small V8, they're using a turbo V6 that makes nearly 100ft/lb of torque more.

GM 5.3L
355 HP
383 TQ

GM 6.2L
420 HP
460 TQ

Ford 3.5L
375 HP
470 TQ

Apples to oranges, the ecoboost is laggy and not a smooth power curve not to mention all of their problems, if they wanted the efficiency of turbos they could throw a few hair driers on a v8. These are big heavy vehicles putting an engine that has to work hard just to get down the street is tiresome and annoying.

[C5SilverBullet]

Originally Posted by Stangkiller

Apples to oranges, the ecoboost is laggy and not a smooth power curve not to mention all of their problems, if they wanted the efficiency of turbos they could throw a few hair driers on a v8. These are big heavy vehicles putting an engine that has to work hard just to get down the street is tiresome and annoying.

Have you driven one? They aren't laggy at all, and no problems with them either. The first year there was an issue, but have been great since.

I've been driving an Expedition for a week, MUCH better pickup that the Tahoe/Suburban.

[vetteman9368]

Originally Posted by Stangkiller

Apples to oranges, the ecoboost is laggy and not a smooth power curve not to mention all of their problems, if they wanted the efficiency of turbos they could throw a few hair driers on a v8. These are big heavy vehicles putting an engine that has to work hard just to get down the street is tiresome and annoying.

Common sense. Not a job requirement at ford powertrain engineering. And it's not like it gets THAT much better fuel economy.

[C5SilverBullet]

Originally Posted by vetteman9368

Common sense. Not a job requirement at ford powertrain engineering. And it's not like it gets THAT much better fuel economy.

The fuel economy isn't better, it is on par with what GM gets out of the 5.3L.