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Old 01-29-2024, 2:15pm   #161
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Anyone else notice how nobody wants to admit to being a liberal, leftist democrat. Even when every post they make sounds like something a leftist would post, they're like "No, man, not me. I'm an independent." Reminds me of little dhimmi davey from the old place.
Given your prior similar post about me, I assume you are referring to me. I'm still waiting for you to point out one post that proves I'm a liberal. Good luck finding one.
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Given your prior similar post about me, I assume you are referring to me. I'm still waiting for you to point out one post that proves I'm a liberal. Good luck finding one.
The posts you made painting Trump as weak on the border sound liberal as hell. Actually your spin on the dreamers amnesty sounds straight out of CNN.
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The posts you made painting Trump as weak on the border sound liberal as hell. Actually your spin on the dreamers amnesty sounds straight out of CNN.

And his infatuation with Rinos. Any time I hear someone trying to push the narrative that we need to support somebody weaker than Trump, my radar goes off. That's how we ended up in this mess.
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And his infatuation with Rinos. Any time I hear someone trying to push the narrative that we need to support somebody weaker than Trump, my radar goes off. That's how we ended up in this mess.
What infatuation with RINOs? You are just making up shit now.

Who have I said we should support that is weaker than Trump? Are you talking about DeSantis? He's not weaker than Trump. I've already posted facts that show he is a stronger conservative than Trump. I also believe he is much smarter and emotionally stronger than Trump.
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The posts you made painting Trump as weak on the border sound liberal as hell. Actually your spin on the dreamers amnesty sounds straight out of CNN.
Did Trump try to get an amnesty bill passed while he was POTUS? Yes, he did. As I said earlier, I'm not saying he was/is totally weak on the border because he isn't but he did try to get an amnesty bill for some illegals. I'm not OK with any amnesty at all.
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What infatuation with RINOs? You are just making up shit now.

Who have I said we should support that is weaker than Trump? Are you talking about DeSantis? He's not weaker than Trump. I've already posted facts that show he is a stronger conservative than Trump. I also believe he is much smarter and emotionally stronger than Trump.
What you believe concerning Trump means bupkis.

You are hung up on who's the most conservative...bla bla bla. Means zip if he's not a fighter.
DeSantis may make a good president one day. But not this day. And there is no way for you to qualify that he is smarter or emotionally stronger than Trump, those are just your feelings.
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Did Trump try to get an amnesty bill passed while he was POTUS? Yes, he did. As I said earlier, I'm not saying he was/is totally weak on the border because he isn't but he did try to get an amnesty bill for some illegals. I'm not OK with any amnesty at all.
Like I posted...your position on this sounds like CNN or that KJP nappy headed fool.
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The posts you made painting Trump as weak on the border sound liberal as hell. Actually your spin on the dreamers amnesty sounds straight out of CNN.
Let's not forget

Didn't build the wall
Didn't get Mexico to pay for it
Had 4 years to do something and didn't
Stole classified documents

All that's missing is an autographed head shot of Rachel Maddow.
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Didn't build the wall
Didn't get Mexico to pay for it
Had 4 years to do something and didn't
Stole classified documents
I'm glad some of you are finally admitting that Trump didn't accomplish some key things while POTUS.

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Like I posted...your position on this sounds like CNN or that KJP nappy headed fool.
My position is based on facts. Simple concept.
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What you believe concerning Trump means bupkis.

You are hung up on who's the most conservative...bla bla bla. Means zip if he's not a fighter.
DeSantis may make a good president one day. But not this day. And there is no way for you to qualify that he is smarter or emotionally stronger than Trump, those are just your feelings.
What proof do you have that DeSantis is not a fighter that would fight the deep state? You have none so that is just your feelings.

However, Trump has an actual history as POTUS where he was in a position to fight the deep state and he failed. Those are facts, not just my feelings.
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Given your prior similar post about me, I assume you are referring to me. I'm still waiting for you to point out one post that proves I'm a liberal. Good luck finding one.



You may not be a full on Liberal but you sure as hell aren't even close to be conservative.
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What proof do you have that DeSantis is not a fighter that would fight the deep state? You have none so that is just your feelings.

However, Trump has an actual history as POTUS where he was in a position to fight the deep state and he failed. Those are facts, not just my feelings.
Let's just Devil's Advocate here. Let's say DeSantis becomes president and wants to re-enact Trump era policies. He objectively agrees with most of it. Let's say he wants to finish the wall, stop the illegal invasion horde, and deport tens of millions of illegals.

How is Ron going to fare any better than Trump when he has to fight both the D's AND the R's (our friends back east?). You've heard credible evidence that most everyone in D.C. is either bought off, or blackmailed with sex parties and the like. So, how is Ron going to overcome all that? He won't have any support, other than the citizens supporting him. The actual lawmakers and courts will stymie him at every turn. Remember Paul Ryan and Cocaine Mitch doing exactly that to Trump for the first two years?

Trump couldn't even pick his own appointees if they needed Senate approval. Instead we got people like Bill Barr, Chris Wray, and Gina Haspel. Remember the big bald guy Trump had as interim DoJ head? What was his name? I liked him, he at least said the right things, but he couldn't get confirmed in a R controlled Senate.

How would Ron do any better? The institutional power doesn't want what I want, probably not even what you want. And you see what they're willing to do to anyone who actually presents a serious challenge, someone who won't play ball. How will Ron withstand that unrelenting punishment? Guarantee there was a line of women set to tearfully testify that Ron raped them 30 years ago. Bet it. And that's just for starters.
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You may not be a full on Liberal but you sure as hell aren't even close to be conservative.
Show one of my posts that proves your assertion. You can't.
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Let's just Devil's Advocate here. Let's say DeSantis becomes president and wants to re-enact Trump era policies. He objectively agrees with most of it. Let's say he wants to finish the wall, stop the illegal invasion horde, and deport tens of millions of illegals.

How is Ron going to fare any better than Trump when he has to fight both the D's AND the R's (our friends back east?). You've heard credible evidence that most everyone in D.C. is either bought off, or blackmailed with sex parties and the like. So, how is Ron going to overcome all that? He won't have any support, other than the citizens supporting him. The actual lawmakers and courts will stymie him at every turn. Remember Paul Ryan and Cocaine Mitch doing exactly that to Trump for the first two years?

Trump couldn't even pick his own appointees if they needed Senate approval. Instead we got people like Bill Barr, Chris Wray, and Gina Haspel. Remember the big bald guy Trump had as interim DoJ head? What was his name? I liked him, he at least said the right things, but he couldn't get confirmed in a R controlled Senate.

How would Ron do any better? The institutional power doesn't want what I want, probably not even what you want. And you see what they're willing to do to anyone who actually presents a serious challenge, someone who won't play ball. How will Ron withstand that unrelenting punishment? Guarantee there was a line of women set to tearfully testify that Ron raped them 30 years ago. Bet it. And that's just for starters.
You may be right...key word is 'may'. Two things I think would help DeSantis be more successful fighting the deep state:

1. He is smarter and has a much better understanding of how government works. He would be better able to get things through using any possible method.

2. He is less likely to piss off people that he has to work with.

We have 4 years to look at to see how Trump handled the deep state while POTUS so we don't have to speculate that much and it wasn't good. Given all the roadblocks you mentioned, why would anyone think Trump would be able to do anything with the deep state if he is elected again especially if the margins in Congress are very thin.
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Did Trump try to get an amnesty bill passed while he was POTUS? Yes, he did. As I said earlier, I'm not saying he was/is totally weak on the border because he isn't but he did try to get an amnesty bill for some illegals. I'm not OK with any amnesty at all.
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The facts I was referring to were about Trump trying to get an amnesty bill passed while POTUS. Try to keep up.
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You are referring to one of your posts to call me a liberal. Geez....I thought you could do better than that.
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