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It is still unclear whether or not he had "handlers" or contacts within organized terror groups, but I think it's pretty clear that he was radicalized. It sounds like self loathing about his own homosexuality probably played a huge role in his target selection as well. |
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the problem with this theory is that it makes them all to be some sort of kook. listening to Rush yesterday, he mentioned Andrew McCarthy, who prosecuted some muslim in NYC years ago. before trial, McCarthy decided he wanted to find out what made this guy tick. so he got an English version of the koran, read it, understood it, and discovered that everything the guy believed and advocated came right out of the koran. he wasn't nuts, he was a very committed muslim, doing exactly what the koran commanded him to do. all these muslims have been taught this same line of thinking and belief at the various mosques/schools by their imans. they aren't kooks, they don't need mental health treatment, they are seriously dedicated believers who will not be talked out of their beliefs. and they will die for them. |
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I believe it was for 2 reasons. A attack on America and a attack on gays. The scum that did this pledged allegiance to ISSI and that scum hates both America and gays.
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There's no way in hell I would be unarmed at a mall on black friday. |
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mid-size busy mall, might have 3 guys with flashlights and radios, but not guns, mostly there to discourage shoplifting. you won't see me at a 'pretend gun free zone' if i have any say over the matter. very dangerous places. anyone can pull up the concealed carry permit laws for any state, and they will tell you quite clearly what all the 'gun free' places are. |
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I think his first priority was to kill and terrorize Americans. He chose that particular venue because it was familiar. The fact that he had shame over being gay, as mentioned here, made it all that much easier to carry it out at that particular place.
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whether or not the killer was a homosexual is irrelevant. he chose that locale because he knew, after some scouting, that it was a dark, loud, crowded place on a saturday night, and that no one there (except him) would have a firearm to stop him.
he believed that his koran taught him to do this to gain glory before allah. there are thousands more with the same beliefs. |
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I bet there are a LOT of armed mofos at the malls on black Friday (depending on what part of the country you are in). At an outdoor area such as waiting to get in a sporting event, a crowd could disperse much more quickly. I really think that to kill as many people as possible, it's pretty hard to top a crowded gay bar at night. |
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Where I think his sexual orientation does have relevance is regarding him being familiar with that particular venue and recognizing it as a soft target. Put it this way, if he wasn't a gay male familiar with that particular venue, he may have chosen a church or a shopping mall instead. He chose the venue because he was familiar with it and he was familiar with it because he was a gay or bisexual male looking to date/hookup. So, him being gay/bisexual is not completely irrelevant, in terms of it putting him in a position in which he was familiar with this particular place. |
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but i'm still avoiding "pretend gun free zones". |
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a devout muslim does not drink and carouse. as for him hanging out at that bar, for all we know, he was faking it and trying to blend in and be accepted as part of the normal crowd. |
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Generally, the simplest answer is the correct answer. I think he was a closet gay or bisexual man. Do I think this was his sole motivation? No. I think he just wanted to kill Americans and took advantage of what was (to him) a familiar target that he recognized as being very unprotected. Also, having grown up in the Detroit area in proximity to Dearborn, I've seen many "devout" Muslim men behave very poorly, with regard to the teachings of Islam. Osama bin laden had porn on his computer, for crying out loud. That doesn't seem to diminish these radical's need to kill westerners. |
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In regard to the OPs question - I think he didnt choose Disneyland because he was also a father. I also feel it was a definite attack on that segment of humanity. |
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