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Old 12-20-2019, 3:04pm   #21
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Ah, brotherly love.

The best thing you can do is take his guitar to a teacher to make sure it is set up right. Then buy lessons. Lose the distortion for practice.

Next year buy an amp in the $750-1000 range. Use this as a carrot to keep up with lessons. I hit craigslist and bought a 95 Tweed Fender Blues Jr. for $300. Sounds ****ing great.

If guitar is shit, change strategy and start with a good, playable instrument. Amd lessons.

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Why would you spend between $750-$1,000 on a amp if you've only been playing for one year? Buy a cheap guitar and equipment. If he has the passion to play and has no problem practicing a lot, then he can upgrade his guitar and equipment. Have him get a good teacher, teachers are a dime a dozen. I know a lot and play with a lot of musicians that are self taught. Everyone wants to be a star but not pay the price. He may want a set of golf clubs next year and say Fk the guitar. Go craigslist and go cheap.
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Why would you spend between $750-$1,000 on a amp if you've only been playing for one year?
Few things are less inspiring than shitty tone. If every time you pick up a guitar you wanna do a Pete Townshend number on it you’ll loose interest quick.
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Why would you spend between $750-$1,000 on a amp if you've only been playing for one year? Buy a cheap guitar and equipment. If he has the passion to play and has no problem practicing a lot, then he can upgrade his guitar and equipment. Have him get a good teacher, teachers are a dime a dozen. I know a lot and play with a lot of musicians that are self taught. Everyone wants to be a star but not pay the price. He may want a set of golf clubs next year and say Fk the guitar. Go craigslist and go cheap.
Note the words “next year” to get an amp. Then see Thomas’s post. Then go find a topic that you actually know something about.
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When I got my Telecaster (Jap copy), I did a little work on it with the help of a friend who knows how to set one up, then I asked an extremely talented musician friend to play a few songs at a gig with it. Then I could never blame the instrument for the fact that I can't play worth a shit.
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I'd leave the guitar your son has alone. Find your budget and hit the music stores, eBay, local classifieds, pawnshops.
Several brands out there that offer models for any price range. Let your son know how much you're willing to spend, and let him try out several guitars and see which one he likes best.
The larger stores; Guitar Center, Sam Ash, etc, will have more brands to view, and that saves a lot of traveling, but, I've experienced in shopping for a new guitar that the smaller private owned stores are more willing to work with you on the price.
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Note the words “next year” to get an amp. Then see Thomas’s post. Then go find a topic that you actually know something about.



I didn't say not to get an amp, i said why spend that much when you're a beginner.

I play 3-4 times a week, i think i know the topic, thanks.
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Few things are less inspiring than shitty tone. If every time you pick up a guitar you wanna do a Pete Townshend number on it you’ll loose interest quick.





You lose interest quick in the beginning. After a year and you still have the passion then you know you're not going to sound anywhere like Pete Townsend or any other famous guitarist. Somebody playing for one year isn't going to be that picky that a $500 dollar amp won't do.
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Is he interested in a different guitar?
What amp does he have?
What other pedals?


Does he have a powered pedal board?
He has an old Washburn VGA 15 that we got on craigslist along with the guitar.
We bought a new Boss DS-1 and that rounds out his gear/electronics for now.
He wants to one day have either a Warlock or a Flying V but is level-headed enough to wait until he gets better.
Between scouts,karate,chess club,girlfriend he doesn't have much time for one on one lessons so he uses his laptop and learns from there.
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I’d offer some suggestions as a long time teacher of private lessons but I’d get ragged on for bragging. Good luck.
PM'S work and i've been around long enough to know you know your stuff.
Like any dad just want to do the best for my son and if I don't know the subject i'll ask others that do.
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Why not just get him a gift certificate at the music store?
That's what grandparents,aunts and uncles are for.
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He has an old Washburn VGA 15 that we got on craigslist along with the guitar.
We bought a new Boss DS-1 and that rounds out his gear/electronics for now.
He wants to one day have either a Warlock or a Flying V but is level-headed enough to wait until he gets better.
Between scouts,karate,chess club,girlfriend he doesn't have much time for one on one lessons so he uses his laptop and learns from there.

Guitar and amp seems fine for now...I'd try and let him spark his own imagination in sounds with the git/amp combo he currently has.
  • reverb
  • chorus
  • flanger
Pedals achieve that spark and are inexpensive ($14.00 for a chorus pedal)
I run a Danelectro Hash Brown flanger, and Cool Cat chorus pedal.
Don't forget to buy the short cables with 90's to connect them.

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My father passed away recently and my mother and I were going through some old pictures she had.

Start early.

Sad, because I should be a LOT fuking better since I’ve had a guitar in my hands for a very L O N G time.
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You lose interest quick in the beginning. After a year and you still have the passion then you know you're not going to sound anywhere like Pete Townsend or any other famous guitarist. Somebody playing for one year isn't going to be that picky that a $500 dollar amp won't do.
I used to tell people if you apply your self for one year, you will be able to play guitar. Making sure the kid has a decent instrument first, using a cheap amp, if he sticks with it he earns an amp that will enhance his playing and interest.

I agree if one knows what to look for you can get a cheaper amp. But it’s also a great way for a beginner to get screwed. I priced it according what a decent tube amp goes for at Guitar Center. Like a new Blues Junior or Orange, Marshall, Vox in the 20-30 watt category. For a grand you can get a reissue Bassman or at a deal a reissue Delixe Reverb.

I paid $1800 for my 64 original Deluxe on Craigslist. But I knew what I was looking at and had an amp tech gone through it to ensure it was the real deal. It has transformed my playing. The amp is as important as the guitar if you want to learn fast.

Having a decent instrument means having a decent amp. That’s how you stay interested.

[brag]But what do I know. I had 20-50 kids a week paying me for private lessons for years. (Got me through college boo yah!)[\brag]

I’ll ignore your next response because I know you would argue over the color of the sky.
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[brag]But what do I know. I had 20-50 kids a week paying me for private lessons for years. (Got me through college boo yah!)[\brag]

I’ll ignore your next response because I know you would argue over the color of the sky.



Where did i say you were bragging? You got some issues dude. Maybe those other posters got under your skin about you bragging at the other forum I never felt you were bragging and i never called you out on that. Your problem is EGO.



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Note the words “next year” to get an amp. Then see Thomas’s post. Then go find a topic that you actually know something about.



Now you can ignore my next response. But i play in three different bands and one thing we don't have or tolerate is musicians with ego's. OBTW I'am 68 years old and started in the 4th grade playing music so i thinks i've been a around a little. And i've learned to listen to Musicians and their opinions without posting about my exploits as a Musican constantly.
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Where did i say you were bragging? You got some issues dude. Maybe those other posters got under your skin about you bragging at the other forum I never felt you were bragging and i never called you out on that. Your problem is EGO.


Now you can ignore my next response. But i play in three different bands and one thing we don't have or tolerate is musicians with ego's. OBTW I'am 68 years old and started in the 4th grade playing music so i thinks i've been a around a little. And i've learned to listen to Musicians and their opinions without posting about my exploits as a Musican constantly.
Zero sense of humor. Attacks people like a rabid animal but can’t take a little teasing.

DJ post videos of his band.
Sacredgrooves posts up about his gear and music stuff
Thomas often posts his playing
Strats N Vettes post about his playing
Aerovette posts his singing (which I’ve said is better than I many times)

I challenge you to find a single post where I say I’m great or even good. find just one and I’ll permaban myself.


I often post I don’t deserve to even play with the guys I play with.

I share video because most normal people without huge chips on their sandy vag enjoy them and ask me too.

I hope my friends here will confirm all of this is accurate and true.

Insecure people often confuse confidence and ability with ego or arrogance while there is zero substance (e.g., show me ANYTHING ANYWHERE where I’ve talked of my musical prowess.

Here is a hint. You don’t get to perform with the big boys if you have a big ego. That’s the first thing that kills you.

I’ll continue loving my immensely positive, healing association with music. You keep on dogging everyone on Internet forums. I think I know why you don’t post anything about your playing.

Highjack over, apologies to the OP.

More like CF every day around here. Let me go find a video of me fumbling through a great song with amazing players.

I stand by my advice as a teacher. Playing in bars means zip when it comes to producing great guitar players. Most of my students surpass my skill and go on to other teachers or conservatories. What I claim works is backed up by decades of specific experience teaching kids.

Tell me about your band. You should be proud to post about it.

But let’s be honest. You hold me to a higher standard because and because you love strife. It’s all fun and games until someone directs a joke at you.

Ah, no harm no foul. enjoy your bitterness.
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I love the sound of of my Jackson-V body guitars and BC Rich guitars with EMG passive pickups.

As for the distortion pedal, get him a good marshal tube amp and let him learn how to adjust the gain to get a great clean tone when strumming lightly and then getting the dirty sound with harder strumming. The dirty channel on those is usually so good he wouldn’t need the pedal (assuming it’s a metal zone, right?)
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Yep...the kid is a beginner according to the OP.
That's also why I asked about a powered pedal board.
That alone leaves room for lots-0-gifts for the next few years.
If his genre interest changes from metal, still room for more pedals.


A good dad would locate a 1971 Gibson SG with dual HB's and give that as a gift.

The boss GT-100 MFX pedal would be great. He can create his own FX, too, and download others from the web. I have one and haven’t figured out 1/10th of it either. Great board.
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I love the sound of of my Jackson-V body guitars and BC Rich guitars with EMG passive pickups.

As for the distortion pedal, get him a good marshal tube amp and let him learn how to adjust the gain to get a great clean tone when strumming lightly and then getting the dirty sound with harder strumming. The dirty channel on those is usually so good he wouldn’t need the pedal (assuming it’s a metal zone, right?)
That’s a good idea you bragging asshole!
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That’s a good idea you bragging asshole!
Do I detect a small bit of jealousy?
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