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Old 12-27-2023, 10:50pm   #1
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Default Gaston Glock....Yes, THAT Glock, Dead at 94

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Gaston Glock, founder of the brand widely known for its popular pistols, has passed away at the age of 94 years old, his company has indicated.

"Gaston Glock not only revolutionized the world of small arms in the 1980s, but also succeeded in establishing the GLOCK brand as the global leader in the handgun industry. His internationally renowned GLOCK Perfection stands for uncompromising quality and maximum customer satisfaction," the company stated on its website. "Gaston Glock charted the strategic direction of the GLOCK Group throughout his life and prepared it for the future. His life's work will continue in his spirit."

The company was founded in Austria and has a subsidiary in the U.S. that is located in Georgia.

"In the early 1980's, the semi-automatic GLOCK service pistol was born in response to meet the needs of the Austrian military. It's polymer frame and the developed SAFE ACTION® System revolutionized the pistol market," the company says.

In 2011, Glock and his wife of decades divorced, and the octogenarian wed a 31-year-old, according to the New York Times, which also reported that he had been a conscript in Nazi Germany's Wehrmacht at the end of World War II.

"Been carrying a @GLOCKInc for decades. My Family says thank you Gaston Glock for bringing me an others home safely," Pinal County Sheriff Mark Lamb, who is currently running for a U.S. Senate seat in Arizona as a Republican, tweeted.

"Rest in Peace to a legend, Gaston Glock," the National Rifle Association tweeted.
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Changed the semi auto pistol market
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Made it fashionable to hold your pistol sideways while threatening
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Never shot one. There was simply no good reason I could imagine to suffer shitty ergonomics with a handgun. Plenty of other guns available without that problem.

The Ruger P85 for example had ergonomics to die for. It got bonus points for being kaboom-proof with handloads. Was able to duplicate 357 magnum velocities with my 9mm. I once emptied the entire magazine into a pie plate at 50 yards, fast fire in the dark. That impressed me all to hell
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I've always been partial to these. This is what a handgun is SUPPOSED to look like. This, the 1911, Berretta 92 models, the Browning High Powers.....these just feel the way they're supposed to. Something about mostly plastic just doesn't feel right, pun intended.



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... Something about mostly plastic just doesn't feel right, pun intended...
Worse than just feel. It doesn't function right. Ever hear of "limp wristing"? The term was invented to explain Glock malfunctions.

Every plastic framed semi-auto I've ever shot is subject to malfunctioning because the frame recoils with the slide if you don't back it up with stiff resistance. I've determined the cause is the frame not being heavy enough to resist the spring force exerted by the slide during operation. Locking your wrist and elbow is the only way the gun will reliably operate, and this is pure shit for accurate shooting.

The most accurate shooting possible is to be completely relaxed, elbows slightly bent, and let the gun kick back freely without resistance. Why are people so afraid of handgun recoil? There's no need to be. I've fired 44 magnum proof loads without a problem. A proof load is basically double the maximum spec working load, and even those have always stopped before hitting me in the head due to nothing more than the weight of my arms (just have an ambulance on stand-by if you try that one handed ).
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I've always been partial to these. This is what a handgun is SUPPOSED to look like. This, the 1911, Berretta 92 models, the Browning High Powers.....these just feel the way they're supposed to. Something about mostly plastic just doesn't feel right, pun intended.

I own one of these. Too big for a carry weapon but with its 27 round mag, it's formidable
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I'm not an expert on pistols by any means, but I really like my G27, even if they don't make it anymore.
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There was a time that I thought owning one as an accessory to my tackle box sounded like a good idea. Having a cheap gun that doesn't require protection from the elements could easily outweigh having perfect aim. It's not likely anything would try to ambush me from across the river and accuracy just isn't a concern at bad breath distances.
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I like the large capacity mags. You get 15 + 1 in 10mm and 13 + 1 in .45 acp.

What's not to like?
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There is, was, and never will be anything wrong with Glocks. They're like the AR of the pistol world. If you can't get a Glock to perform just as good (or better) than any other handgun you've ever fired, then it's YOUR fault, not the guns. They're simple, cheap, and reliable. After several THOUSAND rounds from each of my Glocks, I have yet to experience a firearm induced stoppage or malfunction.

You designed a legend Sir. Rest in peace.
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Right, because what gun hasn't received bad press for exploding during normal operation often enough to have a new word invented for the phenomenon.


Oh well, as long as you're happy, that's the important thing
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Right, because what gun hasn't received bad press for exploding during normal operation often enough to have a new word invented for the phenomenon.


Oh well, as long as you're happy, that's the important thing
I'll give you that the Gen 1 Glocks had issues, especially when it came to the "pencil barrels." Glock has since corrected those issues and the Gen 2-5 Glocks are nowhere near the same gun as the Gen 1. They stopped making Gen 1 guns in 1988. In 20+ years of shooting, I've never seen or held a Gen 1. Glock listened to their customers and created firearms that have become legendary in the reliability department. Their reliability and ease of operation is the main reason 65% of LE agencies throughout the US use them as standard duty pistols and have been for 30+ years.

Please don't take what I say as an attack on your opinion...I realize Glocks aren't for everyone, and that's okay. It just rubs me the wrong way when someone faults a gun for "issues" that could have been caused by any number of other issues, especially when those issues haven't been a thing for several decades.
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Nothing wrong with a bit of back and forth conversation

As I recall Glock 40 was responsible for most of the Kaboom issue and that wasn't introduced until 1990 (per wiki). IMO the gun wasn't totally to blame, the main culprit was case dimension. Wall thickness near the rim being too thin for the increased pressure of shortening the 45acp. Glock made a variety of calibers all barreled the same way and I don't recall any kaboom hubbub prior to this. Did hear some noise about an unsupported chamber. Notched to facilitate feeding maybe? Not sure, I've a tendency to not remember things which don't directly affect me
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As I recall Glock 40 was responsible for most of the Kaboom issue and that wasn't introduced until 1990 (per wiki). IMO the gun wasn't totally to blame, the main culprit was case dimension. Wall thickness near the rim being too thin for the increased pressure of shortening the 45acp. Glock made a variety of calibers all barreled the same way and I don't recall any kaboom hubbub prior to this. Did hear some noise about an unsupported chamber. Notched to facilitate feeding maybe? Not sure, I've a tendency to not remember things which don't directly affect me
The .40 S&W is just a "detuned" 10mm ( shortened case, not just a reduced load) and yes, it was a problem with unsupported cases.

I have a model 20 in 10mm and I enjoy shooting it.
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The .40 S&W is just a "detuned" 10mm ( shortened case, not just a reduced load) and yes, it was a problem with unsupported cases.

I have a model 20 in 10mm and I enjoy shooting it.
Oops I was thing about the 45gap. That's hilarious. Forgot the gap even existed. Don't hear much about it anymore. They still make it?
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On a side note I just found out the Glock will supposedly shoot toward a natural point of aim if you just forget everything you ever learned about how to shoot a pistol and don't care about precision shooting. There's some real funny videos on how to do this. The one I watched tells people how to mark up the back of their hand with a Sharpie
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I want apologize for hijacking the thread. That's not generally like me.

Gaston Glock was probably a fine individual who made a solid contribution to society. His passing was not something that should have been overlooked by rehashing old squabbles.
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