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Old 12-20-2023, 12:01pm   #21
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I'm right, not sure what your issue is. Trump is still his own worse enemy and is still making things harder on himself. Here everyone is all bent because he got kicked off the ballot in one state for an insurrection and last night he goes on Truth Social and threatens an existing president. How dumb to you have to be to do that? He's about 90 days out from being tried for an insurrection and he keeps adding to the evidence against him. Last night he threatened Biden by telling him to drop the charges before it's too late. Why not just send Jack Smith an email with more evidence to use against him?

Trump is not very bright, I have always felt that way. But yea, this is all about everyone else picking on Trump.

Every agency
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When is something Trump's fault? This is laughable.
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I'm right, not sure what your issue is. Trump is still his own worse enemy and is still making things harder on himself. Here everyone is all bent because he got kicked off the ballot in one state for an insurrection and last night he goes on Truth Social and threatens an existing president. How dumb to you have to be to do that? He's about 90 days out from being tried for an insurrection and he keeps adding to the evidence against him. Last night he threatened Biden by telling him to drop the charges before it's too late. Why not just send Jack Smith an email with more evidence to use against him?

Trump is not very bright, I have always felt that way. But yea, this is all about everyone else picking on Trump.

Every agency
Every agency director
Every judge
Every prosecutor
Every grand jury
Every election official
Every election worker
Every media outlet
and now we can add:
Every state supreme court

When is something Trump's fault? This is laughable.
You're just wrong. Sorry. Trump is not making it harder for himself. He has long ago recognized his followers are his followers and those not in his camp, can't be convinced to change their vote. You know this.

What is one thing Trump could do while campaigning that would have you vote for him? I'll help you out... NOTHING.
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I'm right, not sure what your issue is. Trump is still his own worse enemy and is still making things harder on himself. Here everyone is all bent because he got kicked off the ballot in one state for an insurrection and last night he goes on Truth Social and threatens an existing president. How dumb to you have to be to do that? He's about 90 days out from being tried for an insurrection and he keeps adding to the evidence against him. Last night he threatened Biden by telling him to drop the charges before it's too late. Why not just send Jack Smith an email with more evidence to use against him?

Trump is not very bright, I have always felt that way. But yea, this is all about everyone else picking on Trump.

Every agency
Every agency director
Every judge
Every prosecutor
Every grand jury
Every election official
Every election worker
Every media outlet
and now we can add:
Every state supreme court

When is something Trump's fault? This is laughable.
Good Lord, what a load of MSDNC blather.

Oh, and link to the charge of "insurrection"?
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You're just wrong. Sorry. Trump is not making it harder for himself. He has long ago recognized his followers are his followers and those not in his camp, can't be convinced to change their vote. You know this.

What is one thing Trump could do while campaigning that would have you vote for him? I'll help you out... NOTHING.
One thing, be running against Newsom.
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One thing, be running against Newsom.
I'll take that. Here's the thing, as a matter of principle, which seems to be your position where Trump is concerned, nothing you know or feel about him CHANGES if Newsom runs against him. Are all of your perceived offenses suddenly acceptable? In all seriousness based on your posts, none of the things you feel Trump has done, apply to Newsom. In the win / loss columns, item by item, Trump vs Newsom with regard to communication and integrity, you should be ticking the Newsom column. How do you reconcile that with your statement?
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To call what happened on Jan 6th and insurrection is pure, unadulterated BULLSHIT and a DNC lie.

It doesn't meet the definition by ANY measure. Not even close
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I'll take that. Here's the thing, as a matter of principle, which seems to be your position where Trump is concerned, nothing you know or feel about him CHANGES if Newsom runs against him. Are all of your perceived offenses suddenly acceptable? In all seriousness based on your posts, none of the things you feel Trump has done, apply to Newsom. In the win / loss columns, item by item, Trump vs Newsom with regard to communication and integrity, you should be ticking the Newsom column. How do you reconcile that with your statement?
This is simple, I feel as flawed and dangerous Trump may be, Newsom would be a worse choice for the future of America. Trump will be watched closely and I think the reality is he would be highly ineffective as he will be spending his entire term fighting legal problems. Having said that, Newsom poses a much bigger risk to America than Trump, Donald's influence will be done in 4 years while Newsom's influence could last for an entire decade.
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I'm right, not sure what your issue is. Trump is still his own worse enemy and is still making things harder on himself. Here everyone is all bent because he got kicked off the ballot in one state for an insurrection and last night he goes on Truth Social and threatens an existing president. How dumb to you have to be to do that? He's about 90 days out from being tried for an insurrection and he keeps adding to the evidence against him. Last night he threatened Biden by telling him to drop the charges before it's too late. Why not just send Jack Smith an email with more evidence to use against him?

Trump is not very bright, I have always felt that way. But yea, this is all about everyone else picking on Trump.

Every agency
Every agency director
Every judge
Every prosecutor
Every grand jury
Every election official
Every election worker
Every media outlet
and now we can add:
Every state supreme court

When is something Trump's fault? This is laughable.
Pathetic.
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Yea he is. Glad you're coming around.
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To call what happened on Jan 6th and insurrection is pure, unadulterated BULLSHIT and a DNC lie.

It doesn't meet the definition by ANY measure. Not even close
Ken, you may be right about the majority of what we saw at the capitol. I feel his biggest risk is the fake elector scheme. So many people have taken deals and turned witnesses for the prosecution and all they really need to do is prove he had knowledge in my opinion.

In any case, it's not really smart to be threatening the current president when they're trying to prove he wanted to prevent the transition of power. Just my opinion I suppose.
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Yea he is. Glad you're coming around.
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Oh come on, that was funny.
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I'm right, not sure what your issue is. Trump is still his own worse enemy and is still making things harder on himself. Here everyone is all bent because he got kicked off the ballot in one state for an insurrection and last night he goes on Truth Social and threatens an existing president. How dumb to you have to be to do that? He's about 90 days out from being tried for an insurrection and he keeps adding to the evidence against him. Last night he threatened Biden by telling him to drop the charges before it's too late. Why not just send Jack Smith an email with more evidence to use against him?

Trump is not very bright, I have always felt that way. But yea, this is all about everyone else picking on Trump.

Every agency
Every agency director
Every judge
Every prosecutor
Every grand jury
Every election official
Every election worker
Every media outlet
and now we can add:
Every state supreme court

When is something Trump's fault? This is laughable.
Did you see my thread about the VT trooper who arrested a guy for flipping the trooper off? That's Trump's legal drama, in a nutshell. Trump pissed off the government, and the government is rage indicting as a result. It took the guy who flipped off the trooper a year to have an obvious bullshit charge dropped, twice, apparently. Imagine how much longer it takes for multiple bullshit charges in multiple courts.

But the principle is the same. Butthurt government lashing out at the man who hurt govt's feelings.
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This is simple, I feel as flawed and dangerous Trump may be, Newsom would be a worse choice for the future of America. Trump will be watched closely and I think the reality is he would be highly ineffective as he will be spending his entire term fighting legal problems. Having said that, Newsom poses a much bigger risk to America than Trump, Donald's influence will be done in 4 years while Newsom's influence could last for an entire decade.
It may be unintentional or subconsciously done, but you are literally saying, regardless of how each one behaves or communicates, Trump is better for the country.

That is the message I have been communicating, as have most fellow Barners, from the get-go.

IDGAS about mean tweets etc. I care how he can run the country. It seems deep down, you agree. After all, Newsom is polished, smiles, speaks fluently, doesn't name call...but does that matter? Apparently not.
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Ken, you may be right about the majority of what we saw at the capitol. I feel his biggest risk is the fake elector scheme.
Which "fake elector scheme" would that be?
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It may be unintentional or subconsciously done, but you are literally saying, regardless of how each one behaves or communicates, Trump is better for the country.

That is the message I have been communicating, as have most fellow Barners, from the get-go.

IDGAS about mean tweets etc. I care how he can run the country. It seems deep down, you agree. After all, Newsom is polished, smiles, speaks fluently, doesn't name call...but does that matter? Apparently not.
Trump, as bad as I think he is, would be better for America than Newsom.
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Which "fake elector scheme" would that be?
Sorry Ken, you’re too intelligent and up on current events to not know what’s being ALLEGED. We’ll have to see what evidence is brought forward. Maybe something there, maybe not. I think it’s more likely than not.
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Sorry Ken, you’re too intelligent and up on current events to not know what’s being ALLEGED. We’ll have to see what evidence is brought forward. Maybe something there, maybe not. I think it’s more likely than not.
I'm trying to grasp if you're a believer in that but I suppose it's apparent you are.
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You are an ignorant God Dammed fool.

Speaking of ignorant, I'm not the one living 5 miles from the Alabama border?
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