WTF is Going On With All These UAPs?

[GrandSportC3]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

I'm educated in nuclear physics and engineering. No, I don't believe in ghosts, bigfoot, or ESP. We couldn't keep the secrets of how to build a nuclear weapon secret at the time but we can keep UFOs secret for decades. Sorry, not buying it.




Lots of people worked at Los Alamos - including me at one point. That doesn't mean he (or I) had access to most classified information as it was on a need-to-know basis and compartmentalized. The "security device that was not in any way publicly known" is utter BS and you seem to have bought into it hook, line and sinker. Lazar is a proven liar and a fraud.

I had access to, and knowledge of, a lot of highly classified information in my career. If I went public with it I'd be arrested and prosecuted as I should be. People with high-level security clearances don't divulge what they know, but some are great bullshitters and story tellers.

The question at hand really is WHY is the government denying that he worked there at all if it is a fact that he did work there? I mean, they could just say that he was a low level contractor and admit that he worked there.. The problem is that they completely denying that he worked there. If there was nothing to see here and he was a low level worker, they could have stated that. Why deny it?

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by Ronins2ndCuzzin

His work on Element 115 is what drew me in. He knew intimate things about Element 115 (weight, properties, handling requirements, etc.) 13+ years before it was even "discovered" in 2003.

[Ronins2ndCuzzin]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

I'm educated in nuclear physics and engineering. No, I don't believe in ghosts, bigfoot, or ESP. We couldn't keep the secrets of how to build a nuclear weapon secret at the time but we can keep UFOs secret for decades. Sorry, not buying it.

It's not a secret anymore. It's just people have been programmed NOT to believe it's real.

Originally Posted by Steve_R

Lots of people worked at Los Alamos - including me at one point. That doesn't mean he (or I) had access to most classified information as it was on a need-to-know basis and compartmentalized. The "security device that was not in any way publicly known" is utter BS and you seem to have bought into it hook, line and sinker. Lazar is a proven liar and a fraud.

I had access to, and knowledge of, a lot of highly classified information in my career. If I went public with it I'd be arrested and prosecuted as I should be. People with high-level security clearances don't divulge what they know, but some are great bullshitters and story tellers.

Umm...Manning, Snowden, Teixeira?

You dismiss him so easily man. That's disheartening. Same question to you that I asked Louie...how hard would it be to discredit you if you threatened to go public today? As a dude still working on the inside...it's SO EASY TO DO in today's time. You think the GOV doesn't have all that stuff already ready to be launched? Why else do you think Google, FB, YouTube, et al, all collect buckets of information on every user at the request of the GOV? Then ask yourself how small the population of those with "ICD 704 eligibility" really is. It's almost laughably simple for the GOV to do.

[Ronins2ndCuzzin]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

Glad you're amused. Out of curiosity, when did you first hear about ununpentium?

[Louie Detroit]

Originally Posted by Ronins2ndCuzzin

Think about it dude. If you threatened to go public with data they (the GOV) didn't want released, how easy would it be for them to discredit you, especially today. With AI controlled media, they could discredit you before the press even released your name to the public.

Why threaten to go public? I would just go public and let the chips fall where they may.

[The_Dude]

P'Lod has reliably picked the next president since the '80s

[Ronins2ndCuzzin]

Originally Posted by Louie Detroit

Why threaten to go public? I would just go public and let the chips fall where they may.

Those people who just go public (Manning, Snowden, etc.) end up in jail, or flee to nonextradition countries. If you're not ready to run and desperate (like you got caught doing dumb shit like Lazaar did), you play your only card which is to threaten to go public if harmed...which just makes it worse.

[Little Red L98.]

Originally Posted by Bill

I believe in UFO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-uFp0m2xNs&t

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lBnprlUSVg

I knew there had to be something about you that I like.

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by Ronins2ndCuzzin

Glad you're amused. Out of curiosity, when did you first hear about ununpentium?

Sigh. There is a class of elements called Transuranics. That basically means everything heavier than uranium. All transuranic elements are unstable, which means they're radioactive, and decay to lighter elements, and eventually into stable lead. The heavier the element the more unstable it is, and the shorter the half-life for decay. You can postulate about element 125, for example, which would be extremely unstable and which would have to be made in an accelerator a few atoms at a time at huge cost. There's nothing secret about transuranic elements.

[Ronins2ndCuzzin]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

Sigh. There is a class of elements called Transuranics. That basically means everything heavier than uranium. All transuranic elements are unstable, which means they're radioactive, and decay to lighter elements, and eventually into stable lead. The heavier the element the more unstable it is, and the shorter the half-life for decay. You can postulate about element 125, for example, which would be extremely unstable and which would have to be made in an accelerator a few atoms at a time at huge cost. There's nothing secret about transuranic elements.

Understood.

But how was he able to say (And I'm very loosely summarizing his words from an interview I saw years ago by memory) that it was the main metal used in the propulsion system and was stabile. Shaped in a triangular shape which did fascinating stuff like propel the craft. He laughed at himself a lot and said things like how can you explain nuclear physics to someone who doesn't understand the concept of the wheel? That's the level of lunacy attempting to reverse engineer alien tech was. Again...loosely recalling how he said it.

[ZipZap]

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

Lockheed Martin and Boeing have possession of most craft as private business doesn't have to abide by FIA requests.

I believe you mean FOIA, and as a contractor, I responded to dozens. While the FOIA request is directed to the .gov, you are bound by law to protect ANY information, by Federal Statute, under the request regardless of affiliation. We see the original request, as well as a nice note from the DoJ to keep all materials. Every week, the gov publishes the FOIA's to a broad range of commercial entities to ensure coverage. Your "extensive" research has a fatal flaw.

[Little Red L98.]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

Sigh. There is a class of elements called Transuranics. That basically means everything heavier than uranium. All transuranic elements are unstable, which means they're radioactive, and decay to lighter elements, and eventually into stable lead. The heavier the element the more unstable it is, and the shorter the half-life for decay. You can postulate about element 125, for example, which would be extremely unstable and which would have to be made in an accelerator a few atoms at a time at huge cost. There's nothing secret about transuranic elements.

[Little Red L98.]

Originally Posted by ZipZap

I believe you mean FOIA, and as a contractor, I responded to dozens. While the FOIA request is directed to the .gov, you are bound by law to protect ANY information, by Federal Statute, under the request regardless of affiliation. We see the original request, as well as a nice note from the DoJ to keep all materials. Every week, the gov publishes the FOIA's to a broad range of commercial entities to ensure coverage. Your "extensive" research has a fatal flaw.

Correct. Also nobody likes contractors.

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by Ronins2ndCuzzin

Understood.

But how was he able to say (And I'm very loosely summarizing his words from an interview I saw years ago by memory) that it was the main metal used in the propulsion system and was stabile. Shaped in a triangular shape which did fascinating stuff like propel the craft. He laughed and said how can you explain nuclear physics to someone who doesn't understand the concept of the wheel? That's the level of lunacy attempting to reverse engineer alien tech was. Again...loosely recalling how he said it.

No element heavier than uranium is stable. NONE. Element 115 has a half life of 0.023 seconds. That means that for element 115 whatever amount you start with, you only have half as much after 0.023 seconds. Element 117 has a half life of 112 milliseconds. He laughs about trying to explain nuclear physics, but he clearly has zero understanding of nuclear physics - and he lied about his education. He's a fraud and a liar and anyone with a basic understanding of nuclear physics knows it.

Ununpentium is officially named Muscovium BTW.

[Louie Detroit]

Originally Posted by Little Red L98.

SCIENCE!

[Ronins2ndCuzzin]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

No element heavier than uranium is stable. NONE. Element 115 has a half life of 0.023 seconds. That means that for element 115 whatever amount you start with, you only have half as much after 0.023 seconds. Element 117 has a half life of 112 milliseconds. He laughs about trying to explain nuclear physics, but he clearly has zero understanding of nuclear physics - and he lied about his education. He's a fraud and a liar and anyone with a basic understanding of nuclear physics knows it.

Ununpentium is officially named Muscovium BTW.

After the "discoverers" LMAO! And it's Moscovium dude. https://byjus.com/chemistry/ununpentium/

Have you ever watched any of his interviews? Or are you just taking the publicly available information at face value? People thought the Earth was flat before (hell, some still do). We laugh at them now.

Almost every ancient civilization on Earth has written records of visitations in varying form, but I suppose they were all high on local cheeba and full of shit too aye? I mean hell, what could any human possibly ever know if they're not a physicist? Generational knowledge must be all fiction.

[ZipZap]

Originally Posted by Little Red L98.

Correct. Also nobody likes contractors.

Because the gov always thinks they're smarter

[ZipZap]

Originally Posted by Ronins2ndCuzzin

After the "discoverers" LMAO! And it's Moscovium dude. https://byjus.com/chemistry/ununpentium/

Have you ever watched any of his interviews? Or are you just taking the publicly available information at face value?

He's a nuke engineer, so there's that...

[Little Red L98.]

Originally Posted by ZipZap

Because the gov always thinks they're smarter

You mean they’re not? I’m shocked!!

[Ronins2ndCuzzin]

Originally Posted by ZipZap

He's a nuke engineer, so there's that...

Copy...it was possibly a typo. Engineers don't always type to good or have the best penmanship.