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Old 09-14-2021, 2:57pm   #21
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Subtle brag

3311X5S model

Several on the tractor forums think these were some of the best ever made and sought after for resto projects or parts. The 'X' designates 'extra tough' equal to other mfgs. commercial grade mowers at the time. Built in 1986 just down the road from me in GA. all steel! The chassis is great with heavy gauge steel and a 33" deck.

Bad news. I think the motor is stuck. I can't turn it by hand. Watching some yt vids they are VERY SIMPLE to tear down and repair if no major damage. I hadn't planned on it. But, should be fun to turn wrenches on and see if I can get it going.

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Briggs and Stratton 14.5 OHV with electric start.

Some forum peeps say if rebuilt these will outlast the big box mowers 4x.
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Subtle brag

3311X5S model

Several on the tractor forums think these were some of the best ever made and sought after for resto projects or parts. The 'X' designates 'extra tough' equal to other mfgs. commercial grade mowers at the time. Built in 1986 just down the road from me in GA. all steel! The chassis is great with heavy gauge steel and a 33" deck.

Bad news. I think the motor is stuck. I can't turn it by hand. Watching some yt vids they are VERY SIMPLE to tear down and repair if no major damage. I hadn't planned on it. But, should be fun to turn wrenches on and see if I can get it going.

For those playing along.
Briggs and Stratton 14.5 OHV with electric start.

Some forum peeps say if rebuilt these will outlast the big box mowers 4x.
Very cool! It's a great feeling acquiring something you didn't know about for cheap that has value until after the fact. Yeah, you'll get some turds but every now and again a blind squirrel gets a nut. I even was a blind squirrel when I bought my truck, I had no idea at the time, some 21yrs later I still get random offers to buy it. Hence my comment in MM's thread on the Ford F250.

Be sure to update us, I'd like to see it running
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3311X5S model

Several on the tractor forums think these were some of the best ever made and sought after for resto projects or parts. The 'X' designates 'extra tough' equal to other mfgs. commercial grade mowers at the time. Built in 1986 just down the road from me in GA. all steel! The chassis is great with heavy gauge steel and a 33" deck.

Bad news. I think the motor is stuck. I can't turn it by hand. Watching some yt vids they are VERY SIMPLE to tear down and repair if no major damage. I hadn't planned on it. But, should be fun to turn wrenches on and see if I can get it going.

For those playing along.
Briggs and Stratton 14.5 OHV with electric start.

Some forum peeps say if rebuilt these will outlast the big box mowers 4x.
Sounds like the engine's been replaced--that's not the original. It came from the factory with an 11 hp L-head cast iron bore engine.

Solid machine.
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Sounds like the engine's been replaced--that's not the original. It came from the factory with an 11 hp L-head cast iron bore engine.

Solid machine.
Yep Ran across a post on a tractor forum and the '11' in the model number indicates 11hp.

At the sale they had an entire bagging system for sale. I'm sure it went with this mower and they were trying to maximize $ or too dumb to realize it was probably originally on this one. Looking around online the bagging system or parts bring good $ I should have made them include it!

I wonder if those Harbor Freight Chinese motors would work on it?
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This will be up and running LONG before the @Rikki Z-06 golf cart project.

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Can't get the battery to even start to charge. Haven't tried jumping it off. Yep, a new one is $20, but what fun is that?

My goal might be to invest $0 to see if i can get it running?

Epsom salt to regen battery?

Or..

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Ha ha I laughed out loud when I saw my post - totally forgot about it. I thought “ what scoundrel would post that?”

Looked at avatar. It’s me. Chuckle, snort.
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Pulled the plug and put a socket on the flywheel. It turns! Wasn't locked up like I had thought. No bad sounds either. No oil deposits or discoloration around the head/block or gasket surfaces. Spark plug looks really nasty and may have been burning oil or running super rich.

Next steps will be to clean carb./fuel system. Figure out some wiring - someone has messed with it before. Not sure, if they were bypassing safety switches or what exactly. I'd like to get it running before ripping the motor apart if possible.

I think I'll just try to jump start it with a jumper cable straight to the starter positive lug.
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Pulled the plug and put a socket on the flywheel. It turns! Wasn't locked up like I had thought. No bad sounds either. No oil deposits or discoloration around the head/block or gasket surfaces. Spark plug looks really nasty and may have been burning oil or running super rich.

Next steps will be to clean carb./fuel system. Figure out some wiring - someone has messed with it before. Not sure, if they were bypassing safety switches or what exactly. I'd like to get it running before ripping the motor apart if possible.

I think I'll just try to jump start it with a jumper cable straight to the starter positive lug.
Photos please.
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Yep Ran across a post on a tractor forum and the '11' in the model number indicates 11hp.

At the sale they had an entire bagging system for sale. I'm sure it went with this mower and they were trying to maximize $ or too dumb to realize it was probably originally on this one. Looking around online the bagging system or parts bring good $ I should have made them include it!

I wonder if those Harbor Freight Chinese motors would work on it?
Yes, HF engines are excellent value for the $. Try and rescusitate the current mill first but if it is dead go get a China motor with the same shaft diameter, keyway dimension and shaft length (too long? break out the hacksaw). You will likely need to redrill mount plate holes and maybe fab a bit on the exhaust side.
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Those HF Predator motors are just a Honda clone right? I've heard good things about them.
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Pulled the plug and put a socket on the flywheel. It turns! Wasn't locked up like I had thought. No bad sounds either. No oil deposits or discoloration around the head/block or gasket surfaces. Spark plug looks really nasty and may have been burning oil or running super rich.

Next steps will be to clean carb./fuel system. Figure out some wiring - someone has messed with it before. Not sure, if they were bypassing safety switches or what exactly. I'd like to get it running before ripping the motor apart if possible.

I think I'll just try to jump start it with a jumper cable straight to the starter positive lug.
Nice. The electrical systems on those are pretty simple...very easy to isolate the safety switches from the engine. I sold a chit ton of those units back in the day.

FYI...If you want to find out how old the engine is, look at the "code" number. The first 6 digits will be the DOM (YYMMDD).
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It's pretty rough. Missing some bits. Might do a before/after with some Meguiars products.

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Nice. The electrical systems on those are pretty simple...very easy to isolate the safety switches from the engine. I sold a chit ton of those units back in the day.

FYI...If you want to find out how old the engine is, look at the "code" number. The first 6 digits will be the DOM (YYMMDD).
They are 80s iconic.

The battery is very weak again. Will check volt. with meter after another good charging. But, the starter did engage and spun the engine 1 rev.

Maybe there is hope for it.
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Carb. was surprisingly clean. Must have been parked with no fuel. Just a little dirt in main jet and bowl. One has the tiniest little o-ring that you can barely see. Just to mfg. something so tiny and precise is amazing to me.

I think B&S shutdown a few yrs., ago? Or was bought out or something.All the decades of rumbling little engines for mowers, go-karts, etc...

Next up will be cleaning the flywheel magnet and and coil.
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It's alive!

Turned motor by hand.
Cleaned carb.
Cleaned spark plug.
Cleaned magnet on flywheel.
Cleaned coil pack.
Cleaned ground cable attaching point.
Charged/discharged the very old battery numerous times and added a bit of water.

A few coats of Meguiars and it will be ready for Bring A Trailer!

It probably needs new belts, seat taped up, battery, and a couple other things to actually be useful and reliable.

My goal was to get it running and not blow my $10 budget for it.
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It's alive!

Turned motor by hand.
Cleaned carb.
Cleaned spark plug.
Cleaned magnet on flywheel.
Cleaned coil pack.
Cleaned ground cable attaching point.
Charged/discharged the very old battery numerous times and added a bit of water.

A few coats of Meguiars and it will be ready for Bring A Trailer!

It probably needs new belts, seat taped up, battery, and a couple other things to actually be useful and reliable.

My goal was to get it running and not blow my $10 budget for it.
Video?
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