OK, I'm in the up to two weeks of body clock reset.

[owc6]

For those of you who PooPoo that it's a real issue, studies have shown:

That extra hour of sunshine – for the early risers – comes with "a 24% increase in heart attacks on the Monday following the switch to daylight saving time," or that an average rate of fatal automobile accidents increases by 6% nationwide or that "there were 3.6 more (workplace) injuries on the Mondays" following the feckless change up. Not to mention government-inflicted chaos for parents getting thousands of children up an hour earlier.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/no-r...nstant-demands

[Mike Mercury]

Originally Posted by Kevin68

I go to bed when I'm tired and wake up whenever my body tells me to.

[LilRedCorvette]

This thread alone demonstrates why we still change clocks twice a year…because no one agrees if our small sample of the population can’t, then neither can the gubmint folks

[owc6]

Still awake.

And the site clock is still two hours off.

Maybe, I'm just losing it. just saying.

[Mick]

Originally Posted by LilRedCorvette

This thread alone demonstrates why we still change clocks twice a year…because no one agrees if our small sample of the population can’t, then neither can the gubmint folks

You're so totally wrong it's ridiculous.

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by owc6

For those of you who PooPoo that it's a real issue, studies have shown:

That extra hour of sunshine – for the early risers – comes with "a 24% increase in heart attacks on the Monday following the switch to daylight saving time," or that an average rate of fatal automobile accidents increases by 6% nationwide or that "there were 3.6 more (workplace) injuries on the Mondays" following the feckless change up. Not to mention government-inflicted chaos for parents getting thousands of children up an hour earlier.

Correlation isn't proof of causation.

The poor parents suffering "chaos" for getting their little tykes up early need to grow up.

[GTOguy]

I was up at 3:50 am this morning and tried to go back to sleep and finally said screw it at 6am and got up. 735am right now and still dark out. This sucks.

[Yadkin]

Originally Posted by GTOguy

I was up at 3:50 am this morning and tried to go back to sleep and finally said screw it at 6am and got up. 735am right now and still dark out. This sucks.

It's the end.

[Mick]

I had been waking up on my own at 6:30 when it started getting light. Woke up at 7:15 this morning, feeling fine, so I've adjusted by a quarter hour so far. By Monday I think I'll be back to normal times, maybe a day or two before.

[Bruze]

Originally Posted by GTOguy

It sucks. Needs to be switched to standard time all year. Instead we have like 9 months of this BS and 3 of normal time.

So far, been getting out of bed at 8 to 9 am instead of 7-8 am. Oh well. Retired so it doesn't matter much. Just that I'm a morning person, and like it light early.

I never get up til 8 or later, so the mornings are the same for me. But I get an extra hour of daylight in the evening.

Daylight is advancing by 2:57 per day (at my latitude: 42° 52') so in a few weeks it will be light when you get up.

[Bruze]

Originally Posted by Bruze

As we know, Wiki is written and controlled by leftist radicals. My comment was only what my parents had told me. Unlike most people today, I have some retained knowledge (that may be right or wrong) that was learned long before the internets so I don't necessarily have to Google everything.

Having said that, I would challenge their idea that daylight has anything to do with when cows need to be milked (at least in the 1950s and '60s. Maybe everything has changed now).

They need to be milked about every 12 hours, especially * "fresh" ones. In December it would be dark during the morning milking, and getting dark soon after the 4 PM milkings began. In the summer, it would be light throughout both milkings.

* A "fresh" cow is one that has recently given birth and therefore has a lot of milk.

Originally Posted by Kevin68

I don't know why I'm wasting time arguing with you on this because it doesn't really affect me one way or the other. I go to bed when I'm tired and wake up whenever my body tells me to.

Since you don't like Wiki, maybe you'll believe it from a few farm publications. Maybe your parents were wrong.

https://agamerica.com/blog/myth-vs-f...20against%20it.

https://www.lancasterfarming.com/cou...09606c957.html

https://www.fb.org/focus-on-agricult...me-and-farmers

https://modernfarmer.com/2022/03/day...-time-farmers/

https://davisfood.coop/whos-to-blame...light-savings/

https://www.farmprogress.com/farm-li...t-with-farmers

https://www.farms.com/ag-industry-ne...ently-903.aspx

Did you see the red parts? I never asserted that the reason for DST was for farmers, I just said that I heard it from my parents.

As for DST screwing up when cows give milk, I stand by that it doesn't matter, as the only thing that changes is the hands on the clock. They need to be milked about every 12 hours regardless where the hands on the clock are. Your first two links show that.

I wasn't trying to start a fight, I was just injecting some non-Google knowledge.

[Kevin68]

I didn't say that it screwed up when cows give milk either. I said that it was started in the US to reduce energy consumption (which is doesn't do in any appreciable way, hence my original comment that it should be abolished...like all laws that don't achieve their intent)

I don't know one thing about milking cows or their lactation schedule.

[GTOguy]

I'm just pissed all the cool guys are on the East Coast and are 3 hours ahead of me. I know when I get up that they've already been on the 'barn for hours. I feel like I'm always trying to catch up.

[Bruze]

Originally Posted by GTOguy

I'm just pissed all the cool guys are on the East Coast and are 3 hours ahead of me. I know when I get up that they've already been on the 'barn for hours. I feel like I'm always trying to catch up.

So where TF are you around 10-12 PM eastern? -- that's the middle of the evening for you.

This place dies after 10 or so.

[Mick]

Originally Posted by Bruze

Did you see the red parts? I never asserted that the reason for DST was for farmers, I just said that I heard it from my parents.

As for DST screwing up when cows give milk, I stand by that it doesn't matter, as the only thing that changes is the hands on the clock. They need to be milked about every 12 hours regardless where the hands on the clock are. Your first two links show that.

I wasn't trying to start a fight, I was just injecting some non-Google knowledge.

I've heard people say this, and although I have never made my living as a farmer, I have visited many at various times of the year. The busiest times are prepping the soil, planting, and harvesting, and from what farmers say, they work from the time there is enough light to see, until there is no longer enough light to see. They don't care what the clock says. So the whole "it's for the farmer's" thing never made any sense to me.

I always heard it was so little Johnny and little Sally don't have to stand by the curb waiting for the school bus in the dark. This never made much sense to me either, because if that really is a problem, why don't we shift the start and end times of the school day in winter, instead of jacking with EVERY ****ING BUSINESS in the economy?