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Old 01-21-2020, 10:39am   #21
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Same as common sense.
Common Sense and his wife Common Courtesy went on vacation in 1984...and haven’t been back since.
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Yep.

Oldest (29) needs an swift kick in the azz, but you can't push the issue > don't want grands to be put in the middle and used as leverage.
You are not alone. We have a similar issue with our son. He has high dollar tastes and a middle class budget.
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Her boys have passed that day by.
Yet the effects are still felt each and every day.
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Yet the effects are still felt each and every day.
STFU Dr. Phillis!
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Thankfully my Son[34] is very respectful and responsible! I have alwahys gotten compliments on him ever since he was little and up thru now how polite and respectful he is to other people, especially to older adults!
Most all his friends act the same way as well!
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Thankfully my Son[34] is very respectful and responsible! I have alwahys gotten compliments on him ever since he was little and up thru now how polite and respectful he is to other people, especially to older adults!
Most all his friends act the same way as well!
All Stepford kids act that way.




Just kiddin Hal.
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All Stepford kids act that way.




Just kiddin Hal.
STFU
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Old 01-21-2020, 12:10pm   #29
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I dunno, to me it doesn't seem that much different today than it did 40-some years ago when I was a teenager and had seen plenty of different types. I was raised to be polite and respectful, as were all of my friends. But I also observed plenty of kids who were terrible. I remember one family where both teenaged sons would often tell their dad to get ****ed in front of everyone. And it wasn't some big argument, it was normal conversation. There were no repercussions. Ever. And that was by no means the only family I ever saw where it was like this.

All of my friends have raised their kids right and they are as polite and trouble free as any generation has been.

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And children have been "elevated" to adult status by the media.
One of the reasons I disliked shows like the Simpsons, even though I was virtually alone in that camp.

They show kids talking smack to their parents and in the following years that trend continued in many movies; the precocious child that knows better than any adult.

How about "are you smarter than a 5th grader?"

All appears cute on the outside until the results rear their ugly heads.

One of the reasons we don't watch tv and are very picky with what movies/cartoons our kids watch.
We also expect them to address adults with "Mr. or Mrs."
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I think that this can be handled pretty easily. From very early on, I told my kids "Children aren't stupid, they are inexperienced". I think that set the tone all the way through their growing up years. I never presented myself as "smarter" than they were, and it's a good thing too, because I am sure they are both way smarter than I. They talk to me when they need "life guidance", and never bothered me much with homework struggles.
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You have to decide early on whether your kid is going to need a college fund or a bail fund. We had one of each.
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You have to decide early on whether your kid is going to need a college fund or a bail fund. We had one of each.
One of each kind of kid or both funds for one kid?
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Common Sense and his wife Common Courtesy went on vacation in 1984...and haven’t been back since.
I'm trying to keep the dream alive.
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I dunno, to me it doesn't seem that much different today than it did 40-some years ago when I was a teenager and had seen plenty of different types. I was raised to be polite and respectful, as were all of my friends. But I also observed plenty of kids who were terrible. I remember one family where both teenaged sons would often tell their dad to get ****ed in front of everyone. And it wasn't some big argument, it was normal conversation. There were no repercussions. Ever. And that was by no means the only family I ever saw where it was like this.

All of my friends have raised their kids right and they are as polite and trouble free as any generation has been.

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Old 01-21-2020, 1:13pm   #35
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I was always too shy as a kid to be a fool around adults. I sat quietly and spoke when spoken to...and sometimes not even then.
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I was always too shy as a kid to be a fool around adults. I sat quietly and spoke when spoken to...and sometimes not even then.




Too bad you're not like that now.
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One of each kind of kid or both funds for one kid?
One of each kid. They are both in their late 40s now and doing well. I didn't actually raise them, they were grown and had moved out when I met my wife 30 years ago. I can tell you this, anyone who thinks a kid is only an 18 year responsibility has never had one.
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Too bad you're not like that now.

No one asked you vanheim.

Hey I think someone just took off with your inner tube. Isn't tomorrow bath day?
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No one asked you vanheim.

Hey I think someone just took off with your inner tube. Isn't tomorrow bath day?
Second Wednesday of the month.
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Irony alert!
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