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Old 11-12-2012, 1:44pm   #1
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Instead of raising the price of his pizza 14 fuking cents, he would rather lay off employees.

John Schnatter, Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee hours being cut

He sold 1.2 billion dollars worth of shitty pizza last year and now wants to cut his employees hours because he estimates the new health care law will cost his company between 5-8 million dollars. A number works out to about half a percent in sales.

Now before you get on your high horse about business cost and how the 14 fuking cents will put him out of business, consider this.

This asshole is already using the government to subsidise his employees health care.

Surely no one flipping pizza is able to afford health insurance on their own, so the only other option is Medicaid.

So that's right. Instead of raising the price of a pizza 14 fuking cents, this asshole would prefer to keep his employees health care cost on the US tax payers.
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Other than his comments on health care, Schnatter largely steered clear of politics.
Gee, what a guy.
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This pisses me off to no end. What an asshole.

I'm sure some idiot will run to his defense, but this just shows how little he cares about his employees. I think most of them are franchises, so I don't think it will effect as much as he thinks.
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Uhh, does he own the business? think he's done a calculation as to which option would be more profitable? Is he in business to make profits?

Yes, Yes, and yes again you say?! OMG he's a capitalist.Lets crucify that capitalistic, greedy pig! Death to Capitalism!
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I'm sure some idiot will run to his defense
Said idiots will most likely arrive momentarily.
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So raise the prices of your pressure washers by a few bux, see what your client thinks of THAT......

and PIzza is a commodity, all pretty much the same price, how do you add 14 cents to a pizza price when it's priced at 2 for 15 bux?? 15.28 now??

ME, I"d jump up the ingredients a tad, and bump the price by 2 bux.....

bury it all in bait and switch, but dunno what the franchise requirements are....

never did see WTF is do great about a franchise, just do to their school, get the formulation and business tips, turn around a call it 'Papa Gene's'.....and open one up, alter a few ingredients, and charge a buck or two more, so what???

same for a burger joint, plug in any chain FF restaurant/carry out name you want......same shit....

and all these joints are only PT help anyway.....<30 hrs /week, keep the kids in the basement.....

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I wouldn't pay fourteen cents for a Papa John's pizza.
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Uhh, does he own the business? think he's done a calculation as to which option would be more profitable? Is he in business to make profits?

Yes, Yes, and yes again you say?! OMG he's a capitalist.Lets crucify that capitalistic, greedy pig! Death to Capitalism!
Ah, the business is in the business of profit with no social concience argument. Heard it alot in grad school. Was stupid then too.

It is a favorite of small business that utilizes relatively non skilled labor. If you need any kind of intellectual horsepower, however, this dies a quick death.
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ME, I"d jump up the ingredients
I've heard of sex with animals, but never sex with sausage and pepperoni.
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Ah, the business is in the business of profit with no social conscience argument
That pretty much sums up the mentality in here.
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That pretty much sums up the mentality in here.
U have never run a business, obviously, not one anything more than a rock band, with a singer no one understood a word of.....

BET ME, anyone????
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Hahahahaha.

I was waiting for this stupid twitter-sphere crap to get posted here.

Papa John isn't evil. He's also not a ****ing social-worker.

Keep blaming everyone but yourselves leftists.

HOW DARE THIS GREEDY CAPITALIST PIG NOT BEAR THE COST OF OUR STUPIDITY!!!
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That pretty much sums up the mentality in here.
yeah, thanks for fixing the spelling

The problem is for this to work, you need to be in a market that is labor rich and the training period is very small. Thus interruption of production/service is very small due to sort of library book labor and the the training costs don't eat you alive.

At lot of employers think they meet his criteria, but don't.
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This is the beauty of liberalism. Consequences and results don't matter, only their precious intentions.

They will never accept responsibility for the consequences of their actions. They smile, glad-hand, pat themselves on the back for their compassion, and then when the bill comes due suddenly they're not taking credit anymore, and instead point the finger of blame at anyone and everyone else.

HOW COULD THIS THING HAPPEN THAT EVERYONE WITH A BRAIN AND SIMPLE ECONOMIC/BUSINESS KNOWLEDGE TOLD US WOULD HAPPEN HAPPEN?!?!?! EVIL CAPITALISM, THAT'S HOW!!!

You trumpeted this hilariously bad law that gives a sloppy wet kiss to big corporate insurance oligopolies and the democratic party machine at the expense of ordinary Americans and a terrible SCOTUS decision for individual liberty, now YOU own the consequences, NOT Papa Johns, not big corporations, not small businesses, not a single one of the victims of YOUR stupidity and b.s. "Go Team" political mentality.
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.14 cents we are talking about here. And maybe not even that. .10 cents. Seems a bit petty to me.
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.14 cents we are talking about here. And maybe not even that. .10 cents. Seems a bit petty to me.
There's a reason I can buy a Large 3-Topping for $11.99 instead of 12.14.

These decisions aren't made by throwing darts at a board.

This is what makes the "EVIL PAPA JOHN" argument even more hilariously stupid.

If Papa Johns is such an evil money grubber and an "ass-hole" as stated by the OP, then why wasn't he already charging me $12.14???

The answer is that the decline in number of pizzas sold at 12.14 will cost more than the additional 15 cent revenue generate by the number of pizza sold at the new price.

Insane leftists with zero business knowledge LITERALLY think that "a 15 cent price hike wouldn't change anything."

The minds of children.

A fifteen cent difference in price for a product produced by a major national player in a mature industry characterized by price competition and tight margins can literally alter units sold by the thousands, hundreds of thousands, or even millions.
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Everyone knows the costs are going to be passed on to the consumer. So just do it. Don't be an asshole over 14 cents. It's just a pr nightmare.

FYI I will never vote for a democrat because I'm in pharma and it always leads to some asshole running the FDA that turns it hostile to industry.
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If Papa Johns is such an evil money grubber and an "ass-hole" as stated by the OP, then why wasn't he already charging me $12.14???

The answer is that the decline in number of pizzas sold at 12.14 will cost more than the additional 15 cent revenue generate by the number of pizza sold at the new price.

Insane leftists with zero business knowledge LITERALLY think that "a 15 cent price hike wouldn't change anything."

The minds of children.
He wasn't charging you $12.14 because the have this unique thing called a MARKETING DEPARTMENT who would laugh if you tried to put that on an ad.

It has nothing to do with supply and demand. This market is pretting inelastic. We are talking about pizzas, ok?
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There's a reason I can buy a Large 3-Topping for $11.99 instead of 12.14.

These decisions aren't made by throwing darts at a board.

This is what makes the "EVIL PAPA JOHN" argument even more hilariously stupid.

If Papa Johns is such an evil money grubber and an "ass-hole" as stated by the OP, then why wasn't he already charging me $12.14???

The answer is that the decline in number of pizzas sold at 12.14 will cost more than the additional 15 cent revenue generate by the number of pizza sold at the new price.

Insane leftists with zero business knowledge LITERALLY think that "a 15 cent price hike wouldn't change anything."

The minds of children.

A fifteen cent difference in price for a product produced by a major national player in a mature industry characterized by price competition and tight margins can literally alter units sold by the thousands, hundreds of thousands, or even millions.
Seems a bit petty to me Will. Sorry.
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He wasn't charging you $12.14 because the have this unique thing called a MARKETING DEPARTMENT who would laugh if you tried to put that on an ad.
Uh, marketing and sales go hand in hand. If they had to market them at 12.14, they'd SELL LESS.

Anyone who thinks this wouldn't greatly effect sales is clueless.

Consumers aren't always captive, ESPECIALLY when it comes to food.

We're not talking about the local cable monopoly here, where any costs can always be passed on with minimal blow-back.

It is not as simple as "pass the cost on" and nothing else will change. A LOT will change.

You've got to be delusional to think that Papa John's CEO is evil and is simply trying to stick it to Obama or stick it to his employees to hurt Obama.
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