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Old 04-27-2011, 11:01am   #21
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I knew it ... I told yea.
Told ya what?

I have never been on the "He's not an American" bandwagon. I have never said that and I never will. With that said, I don't see what the big deal is with showing a birth certificate. All he had to do was release this years ago and it would have been an absolute non-issue.

I said it was a wierd looking document (and it is). Stop trying to make an argument where there isn't one.

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why would someone in that position in the world WANT to cause such controversy and heartache?
Exactly. That is my only interest in this matter.
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Do you believe they are the fringe?

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There will always be a small fringe.
Whether they are or not the both have HUGE followings not the small fringe you wrote of.
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It was a yes or no question.

Are or are they not on the fringe?
In my opinion they are not. They represent the more right of the Republican Party's viewpoint but certainly not out on the fringe. If they are on the fringe, then there are more than a few who agree with them and they are more than the "small fringe" you wrote of.
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Some interesting questions about the certificate:
Will Release Of Obama's Purported Birth Certificate Give Rise To New "Certer" Movement? | The Smoking Gun

That said, unless someone can prove this thing is a fake, I'm fine at accepting it face value.

And though I would really like to have his school records opened for all to see and review, those are the very least of my worries right now.
BTW; when you asked for George W Bush's school records, and I'm sure you did, what did you see of relevance that clinched it for you to Vote for him to be President of The United States?

Additionally; if I was Mr. President Obama, I would stop this silliness and would turn over everything the previous 43 Presidents where asked to turnover.

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Distraction. Look over there while I screw you over here.
Dose anyone remember the Big Jobs Conversation back in November?

Of course not; we been busy on more important issues.
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Yep. I also remember the big anti-Obamacare conversation too.
Have you been to a Republican Town Hall lately?
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I never asked to see anyone's school records chief.

Did any of the other PotUS have their school records sealed and work so hard to keep them that way?
Don't know, never new enough to care ... usually, what someone learned in a book in college isn't enough for President.

When the last time you head this come up in a Presidential Debate?
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What's your point in asking?
My point is exactly that ... have you been to one lately?

Looks like the GOP is having difficulty explaining themselves.
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Do you believe they are the fringe?
You don't?
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No I don't.

I know you do. But you consider most people against progressive liberal socialism on the fringe so BFD.
No I don't.

Do you consider Rachel Maddow, Keith Olbermann or Ed Schults on the fringe?
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Finally.

Our long national nightmare is over.

Jesus.
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Finally.

Our long national nightmare is over.

Jesus.
Serious.
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Not according to The United State Justice Department, The Federal Burial of Investigations, The Central Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency and The United States Secrete Service. But of course I’m sure your personal investigative resources are far better adapted at vetting a POTUS, based on our extensive years and experience at these matters of National and Global Security.

You know what, when it comes down to it, the American people are the ones being served by the release of this document. They are the ones who elected him, they are the ones he WORKS FOR. I don't give two shits about the FBI or the USSS. They are not ELECTED to represent me to the world. He is and thus, he answers to me. Or did the USSS or NSA release a report about his birth certificate that I missed.

CHAS you keep blaming the Right, that is incorrect. All he had to do was produce the document. Why did he continue to evade this issue? He could've put it to bed 2 years ago.

He is evasive on issues that HE and only HE can put to rest. When a person is evasive to the extent he is, there is a natural response in humans to be distrustful. To say otherwise is a lie.

Of course, now that this has been put to rest (and in my mind it now is), he must come to terms that he is in a public office, the highest in the land, and has given up his right to a certain amount of privacy. Much like a soldier gives up certain rights that other Americans have, he volunteered for the position he holds.

Just my perspective. You can dislike it if you like, I don't care, but this is how I feel.
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BTW; when you asked for George W Bush's school records, and I'm sure you did, what did you see of relevance that clinched it for you to Vote for him to be President of The United States?

Additionally; if I was Mr. President Obama, I would stop this silliness and would turn over everything the previous 43 Presidents where asked to turnover.

Agree..
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You know what, when it comes down to it, the American people are the ones being served by the release of this document. They are the ones who elected him, they are the ones he WORKS FOR. I don't give two shits about the FBI or the USSS. They are not ELECTED to represent me to the world. He is and thus, he answers to me. Or did the USSS or NSA release a report about his birth certificate that I missed.

CHAS you keep blaming the Right, that is incorrect. All he had to do was produce the document. Why did he continue to evade this issue? He could've put it to bed 2 years ago.

He is evasive on issues that HE and only HE can put to rest. When a person is evasive to the extent he is, there is a natural response in humans to be distrustful. To say otherwise is a lie.

Of course, now that this has been put to rest (and in my mind it now is), he must come to terms that he is in a public office, the highest in the land, and has given up his right to a certain amount of privacy. Much like a soldier gives up certain rights that other Americans have, he volunteered for the position he holds.

Just my perspective. You can dislike it if you like, I don't care, but this is how I feel.
Amen.

Nobody won or lost individually.

The country won. There was a question about the legitimacy of our POTUS' place of birth and after 2 years he finally manned up and showed what is required by the Constitution.

But somehow I feel the lefties will now join in a big circle jerk and celebrate. I can see the drip drip drip on their chins as I type.
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Amen.

Nobody won or lost individually.

The country won. There was a question about the legitimacy of our POTUS' place of birth and after 2 years he finally manned up and showed what is required by the Constitution.

But somehow I feel the lefties will now join in a big circle jerk and celebrate. I can see the drip drip drip on their chins as I type.
Good … so is it safe to say everyone (here on the forum) is satisfied with all of Obama’s vital statistics. Can we not move on the real issues … ? Only 27 months waited.
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Good … so is it safe to say everyone (here on the forum) is satisfied with all of Obama’s vital statistics. Can we not move on the real issues … ? Only 27 months waited.
I'm good.
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Good … so is it safe to say everyone (here on the forum) is satisfied with all of Obama’s vital statistics. Can we not move on the real issues … ? Only 27 months waited.
I didn't realize we'd been ignoring the real issues...

Was there a health-care thing that happened?
Wow! What's with the gas prices? Did they suddenly jump $2?
Unemployment...well...that hasn't changed.
Wonder how much Obama has decreased our deficit? Holy crap! WTF happened?

I should have been paying more attention...
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I didn't realize we'd been ignoring the real issues...

Was there a health-care thing that happened?
Wow! What's with the gas prices? Did they suddenly jump $2?
Unemployment...well...that hasn't changed.
Wonder how much Obama has decreased our deficit? Holy crap! WTF happened?

I should have been paying more attention...
Think of it this way … any and everything President Obama as done, the Republicans will want to repeal (short answer)
I’m expecting the campaign to repeal the Birth Certificate any day now.
Anyone who knows Economics knows Obama isn’t affecting the Oil prices any more than Bush did in 2008. Look at the 2008 Chart Einstein.
Unemployment … after the 2008 and 2009 fiasco, it’s done down … no need for thanks.
Deficits; after the Bush Administration, please … you can thank him later, regardless of the GOP trying to tank it.


Yea you're right, you should remove your head from your ass.
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