US to Send SECOND Aircraft Carrier Group to Israel

[Frankie the Fink]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

Our military might is one of the only reasons our fiat currency is still considered a "world reserve" currency. Once we lose that status, and make no mistake, thanks to BRICS, and other things, we ARE losing it, the Brandonflation we're experiencing is the beginning of the end, most probably. Destroying the military by force injecting them, and ostracizing straight, White people, their main recruiting demographic is on purpose and is weakening the military. The sooner it's neutered from the inside, the quicker we can get on with that WEF global reset. Nationalism here and abroad is the only thing preventing that. With the exception of a few Eastern European countries, and Russia, we're almost there. China isn't going to go down like that, but they're happy to encourage the West to immolate while they sit back and laugh.

Venezuela, here we come! All those Venezuelans that are pouring across are going to feel stupid, as the place they fled TO becomes as shitty as the place they fled. And those Venezuelans that are coming? They aren't even the kind of people you want coming. The educated Venezuelans not politically aligned with Chavez and Maduro.....they fled long ago. What's coming now is the poor, the uneducated, the criminal class.

Correct - the destruction of the US petrodollar as the world reserve currency is a huge threat. And a core goal of the globalists.

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink

The carrier force is a highly-visible deterrent and force projection whereas the submarine force is a lethal, stealth entity.

I understand fully, but why is it necessary for the world to have access to our carrier fleet positions 24/7/365??

I know that neither the chinese or russians has a public access site to track their ships. AND FOR DAMN GOOD REASON!!

[6spdC6]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

I understand fully, but why is it necessary for the world to have access to our carrier fleet positions 24/7/365??

I know that neither the chinese or russians has a public access site to track their ships. AND FOR DAMN GOOD REASON!!

With the satellites and spys in many places that info is easy to come by. You realy think something the size of a carrier or bigger yet a whole shitload of ships is not under observation at all times?

[Bill]

Originally Posted by 6spdC6

With the satellites and spys in many places that info is easy to come by. You realy think something the size of a carrier or bigger yet a whole shitload of ships is not under observation at all times?

If you WANT to be attacked so you can enter a war, you might "lose track" of a potential enemy fleet or a shitload of artillery pieces. .

See: Pearl Harbor, Dec. 7, 1941

See: Hamas attack on Israel, Oct., 2023

[6spdC6]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

If you WANT to be attacked so you can enter a war, you might "lose track" of a potential enemy fleet or a shitload of artillery pieces. .

See: Pearl Harbor, Dec. 7, 1941

See: Hamas attack on Israel, Oct., 2023

Not going to get in the conspiracy theory about that. How many satellites did they have up that could see something like that? If not spotted by luck by a ship equipped with communication radio that Jap fleet owned the ocean.

As far as Hamas raid, not sure what to think about that. Getting back to our carriers think of the amount of satellites up there and long range aircraft and their location is well know.

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by 6spdC6

With the satellites and spys in many places that info is easy to come by. You realy think something the size of a carrier or bigger yet a whole shitload of ships is not under observation at all times?

Again, I understand, but why are we doing this, as it DOES NOT help our military.

There is a reason other nations do not allow the public to view positioning of their naval fleets.

Make other nations use their resources, not our web pages.

BTW, I was told the USS Ford at $20+B has a stealth layer?!?!?

[Thunder22]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

I have never seen any value for this, other than to our enemies.

Am I missing something??

Considering that there's nothing our enemies can do about it, i don't see a problem.

Plus, we probably have a map of where EVERY boat on every ocean is.

[donuts]

Interesting w all the tech in place that anyone was surprised when hamas lit the first missile.. our cia is reading our minds but didn’t know the degenerates were about to murder 100’s of innocents?

[6spdC6]

Originally Posted by donuts

Interesting w all the tech in place that anyone was surprised when hamas lit the first missile.. our cia is reading our minds but didn’t know the degenerates were about to murder 100’s of innocents?

The degenerates are undoubtedly card carring democrats and that buys them protection!

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

And yet, that's not where the attack on America is coming from. There needs to be a carrier group anchored in the Gulf of Mexico, with an intense operational tempo of sorties defending our border 24/7. Even better would be patrolling the Rio Grande with AC-130 'Spookies.' When smugglers and their cargoes are seen entering the river from the Mexican side, strafe the American side of the river. No sane person is going to continue on after that. Do that a few times, and I guarantee you'll see things turn around. After that is done, overflights from the carrier's planes will simply be a show of force deterrent.

A.) An "anchored" carrier group is worthless.

B.) What exactly is a carrier (and the associated aircraft) going to do? You want them flying around as a presence? What happens when someone says screw it and goes anyway, knowing damn well that they aren't going to get shot? The only way a "show of force" works is if the other side knows that you will actually use that force. You want US aircraft bombing US soil?

While I certainly don't disagree with the sentiment of protecting our borders, the aircraft carrier approach is ... well ... no.

[Unsuspicious]

Shooting at the drug mules the US is helping is friendly fire

[RMVette]

Carriers are floating cities with desalination to provide drinking water, operating rooms, morgues, etc. so they may be used for other than a show of force. Well, that's a humanitarian thought at least.

[Bill]

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[Frankie the Fink]

Understand - when a carrier group deploys, its as a whole battle group with tenders, escort ships, you-name-it - essentially its own fleet. Hiding it is problematic and diametrically opposed to its mission as a highly visible projection of American military power. I've been on carriers at sea and went off the catapult once, as a civilian, they are more than just show pieces. They can put ordinance on targets at extended ranges and stay deployed for months if needed.

I'm more interested in why there aren't cries for a "cease fire" in the Urkaine where 400,000 lives have been lost similar to what we are hearing about the Hamas conflict.

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink

Understand - when a carrier group deploys, its as a whole battle group with tenders, escort ships, you-name-it - essentially its own fleet. Hiding it is problematic and diametrically opposed to its mission as a highly visible projection of American military power.

I'm more interested in why there aren't cries for a "cease fire" in the Urkaine where 400,000 lives have been lost similar to we are hearing about the Hamas conflict.

Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink

Understand - when a carrier group deploys, its as a whole battle group with tenders, escort ships, you-name-it - essentially its own fleet. Hiding it is problematic and diametrically opposed to its mission as a highly visible projection of American military power. I've been on carriers at sea and went off the catapult once, as a civilian, they are more than just show pieces. They can put ordinance on targets at extended ranges and stay deployed for months if needed.

I'm more interested in why there aren't cries for a "cease fire" in the Urkaine where 400,000 lives have been lost similar to what we are hearing about the Hamas conflict.

Did your post go through a time warp?

[MadInNc]

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