I called hydrogen as a fuel in my senior year of highschool...1986

[Datawiz]

My honors colloquium class my senior year in high school covered this topic. I knew back then, and have never wavered on my belief that Hydrogen is the future. The EV koolaid is unsustainable, as we all know.

Toyota is going to leapfrog (or kill) the entire EV vehicle landscape. This IS the future. Always was.

[Mike Mercury]

[DAB]

once you make it, it's supply is unlimited.....

[Steve_R]

Yeah, because there are hydrogen filling stations everywhere, and a great distribution infrastructure. And hydrogen is SO easy and cheap to extract from air or water.

Or not.

[Datawiz]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

Yeah, because there are hydrogen filling stations everywhere, and a great distribution infrastructure. And hydrogen is SO easy and cheap to extract from air or water.

Or not.

That's covered in the video. 40 years ago, that was the argument...infrastructure. It's not that much of a challenge anymore.

[Zed16]

I wrote a paper on the hydrogen economy back in 1974. Infrastructure, vested financial interests, and attitude were the barriers then.

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by Datawiz

That's covered in the video. 40 years ago, that was the argument...infrastructure. It's not that much of a challenge anymore.

Really?

Hydrogen Stations in USA in March 2023

Almost all the fuel cell vehicles in the US are in CALIFORNIA . There are a handful in Hawaii. This is because there is no hydrogen fueling network anywhere in the US outside CALIFORNIA and the Aloha State.

[Bruze]

I invented the car that runs on water. Hyde was the first one to mention it. Pretty serious stuff.

You can thank me now if you wish -- before it's too late.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIqKS6YQYtQ

[69camfrk]

But it has that ozone, baby duck, and rattlesnake killing by product of water. Oh wait... Yes, the EV thing is a total fraud, but like everything else, follow the money. The .gov is intent on destroying the middle class with their policies, and it seems to be working. Hydrogen is indeed a great source of fuel, but those of us with a brain have known it forever.

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

Yeah, because there are hydrogen filling stations everywhere, and a great distribution infrastructure. And hydrogen is SO easy and cheap to extract from air or water.

My boss has leased a Fuel Cell Honda Clarity for the last 6 years. Since Honda is fully covering his fuel costs his operating costs are comparable to a Civic, which is the main reason he's doing it (plus playing with the new tech is kind of fun). However, in all that time the hydrogen refueling infrastructure in California hasn't grown much if at all, and is totally non-existent everywhere else. And now Honda is no longer making the Fuel Cell Clarity.

Feel free to draw your own conclusions.

[markids77]

I think the answer is hydrogen/electric hybrids. After the wreck ignites the battery pack, the explosion of the hydrogen tank will evaporate everything for half a block around... no worries about how to deal with the short circuits!

[Bruze]

So everybody buys the left's premise that we're running out of oil, and we must switch to something else NOW or in the near future?

[TheRealBadger]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

Yeah, because there are hydrogen filling stations everywhere, and a great distribution infrastructure. And hydrogen is SO easy and cheap to extract from air or water.

Or not.

Right now. True.

Near future? Going to change significantly.

Hydrogen is already being injected into the NG stream in some locations. Hydrogen is a better long term storage than a li-ion battery. So, solar to electorylsis to either fuel cell or hydrogen IcE is a great peak shaving device. It also makes sense where fixed routes and refueling can be managed, like buses and delivery vehicles.

[Rikki Z-06]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

Yeah, because there are hydrogen filling stations everywhere, and a great distribution infrastructure. And hydrogen is SO easy and cheap to extract from air or water.

Or not.

Sure about that?

https://www.cummins.com/news/release...ngine-act-expo

[markids77]

Originally Posted by TheRealBadger

Right now. True.

Near future? Going to change significantly.

Hydrogen is already being injected into the NG stream in some locations. Hydrogen is a better long term storage than a li-ion Barrett. So, solar to electorylsis to either fuel cell or hydrogen IcE is a great peak shaving device. It also makes sense where fixed routes and refueling can be managed, like buses and delivery vehicles.

Barretts are powered by internal combustion. Perhaps you were thinking of a phased plasma rifle in the 40 megawatt range?

[TheRealBadger]

Originally Posted by Rikki Z-06

Sure about that?

https://www.cummins.com/news/release...ngine-act-expo

Cummins is losing $72M a quarter on their clean tech business after spending more than $500M acquiring them. I’d be careful to get too excited what Cummins says.

[TheRealBadger]

Originally Posted by markids77

Barretts are powered by internal combustion. Perhaps you were thinking of a phased plasma rifle in the 40 megawatt range?

Nah. Stupid typo. I not so smart with my thumbs.

[Mike Mercury]

Originally Posted by markids77

Perhaps you were thinking of a phased plasma rifle in the 40 megawatt range?

[Yadkin]

It's a no brainer. After petrol becomes scarce, in another 150 years...

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by Rikki Z-06

Sure about that?

https://www.cummins.com/news/release...ngine-act-expo

Yeah, quite sure about it. Buy one and let us know where you can refuel it in Florida.