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And most of whom I agree with could give 2 shits what color he is, or how funny his name might be. His platform and policies suck. Period. The LEFT is who makes the presumption that it is his race or (suspected) religion that is the cause of all the angst. |
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I'm not saying "armed to the teeth" either. Most info that I've seen prior (sorry can't seem to find the link now), showed that on average, only about 4% of a given population actually goes all the way to being armed, even in the free states. That 4% unknown quantity to the criminals is sufficient to convince them to move on. All those previous places where massacres occurred were only as successful because the general populace was UNarmed, and forcibly so. If those students and staff have to meet the same requisites as everybody else (including the older farts like us) in qualifying for a concealed carry permit (and most states have quite a rigmarole to meet), then who are you to say that they are not worthy of protecting themselves? Also, are you aware that MOST states MINIMUM requirement is that if you are carrying, you can NOT consume alcohol? Even here in AZ, you make the choice of either drinking, or carrying. No in between. If you have been drinking and are found to be carrying, you face very stiff penalties. You seem to have them all convicted before any of them committed any crime. Those who go through the trouble of qualifying to carry are NOT the problem. The CRIMINALS are the problem. Concentrate on making the punishment worse enough to be a deterrent, then the problems would go away. |
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I say give them all Guns, let them succeed, give them that fence they want and lets sit back and watch the show.
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I think we're both on the same side of the 2A, but my opinion is that we should all have the opportunity to protect ourselves, not just a select few. |
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I am one of those unlucky to be robbed at a young adult age at gun point and I had no gun, lucky they only wanted my wallet for money, when where and how old.
1976 Las Vegas (In the Air Force and staying in a hotel while looking for a place to live) 18 with wife Do I carry now, what do you think |
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Let's hear from one'a'tha Austin bruthas ...
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And how was Whitman able to bring guns on the campus? That isn't permitted, right, so how did he get the weapons to the tower? From Wiki: Sniper fire commences Main building of the University of Texas at Austin from where Whitman, who was just under the clocks, fired upon those below.The first shots from the tower's outer deck came at approximately 11:48 a.m. A history professor was the first to phone the Austin Police Department, after seeing several students shot in the South Mall gathering center; many others had dismissed the rifle reports, not realizing they were gunfire. Eventually, the shootings caused panic as news spread and, after the situation was understood, all active police officers in Austin were ordered to the campus. Other off-duty officers, Travis County Sheriff's deputies, and Texas Department of Public Safety troopers also converged on the area to assist. Around 20 minutes later, once Whitman began facing return fire from the authorities and armed civilians who had brought out their personal firearms to assist police, he used the waterspouts on each side of the tower as gun ports, allowing him to continue shooting largely protected from the gunfire below but also greatly limiting his range of targets. Ramiro Martinez, an officer who participated in stopping Whitman's rampage, later stated that the civilian shooters should be credited as they made it difficult for him to take careful aim.[22] Police lieutenant Marion Lee reported from a small airplane that there was only a single sniper firing from the observation deck. The airplane circled the tower while Lee tried to shoot Whitman, but turbulence made it difficult for him to get a clear shot. The airplane, piloted by Jim Boutwell, was hit by Whitman's rifle fire but continued to circle the tower from a safe distance until the end of the incident. Whitman's choice of victims was indiscriminate; most of them were shot on Guadalupe Street, a major commercial and business district across from the west side of the campus. Efforts to reach the wounded included an armored car and ambulances run by local funeral homes. Ambulance driver Morris Hohmann was responding to victims on West 23rd Street when he was shot in the leg, severing an artery. Another ambulance driver quickly attended to Hohmann, who was then taken about ten blocks south of UT to Brackenridge Hospital, which had the only local emergency room. The Brackenridge administrator declared an emergency, and medical staff raced there to reinforce the on-duty shifts. Following the shootings, volunteers donated blood at both Brackenridge and the Travis County Blood Bank. |
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