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The one BIG unknown that we won't know until election day is voter turnout and my opinion is that is what will be a deciding factor in who wins. If the Republican base doesn't turn out for Trump just like they didn't for Romney, Hillary wins. If the people who turned out and voted for Obama decide to stay home on election day, Hillary loses. Just my opinion, I could be wrong. |
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From what I've seen, he seems to be doing bad with the latin community. And the black community. And the Asian community. And millennials. And women. Seems like the only place he might be winning is with old white guys. |
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He will probably win the popular vote but not the electoral vote as I see it.
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The only difference here is that Trump is a fighter. He doesn't take their shit. Is it pretty? Hell no, there is no way it could be. George Bernard Shaw once said "I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it." Mitt Romney, John McCain, et al pretty much followed this wisdom and they have all lost. What they failed to understand is the fact that the aggressor sets the rules. When the pig grabs you by the pant leg and pulls you into the pit, you either fight back or lose. |
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Even Trump & his followers use the polls reported by the MSM. Most I've seen lately show him losing by double digits. |
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Polls don't mean much at this point. Voter turnout will be the deciding factor next month.
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The vast majority of the polls that show Trump getting clobbered after "pussygate" are media polls that had a singular purpose. That is to show him getting clobbered after pussygate. And guess what? In the latest Podesta document dump, Hillary's people discuss exactly how they go about this for Hillary. It's amazingly simple. They oversample women by a huge percentage. But in polls where they don't do this, like the latest Rasmussen poll, it's Hillary +1. In the latest LA Times poll, it's Trump +2. Both of these polls were pretty much nuts on in 2012. It's child's play for a media polling agency to get a +/- 10 point result. The internal polls for both campaigns are wildly different than the stuff we see from NBC, ABC, WaPo, WSJ, NYT, etc. And if, at this point, you haven't actually read through some of the Wikileaks Podesta emails, and still believe the MSM has any credibility left, well I would consider it as if someone told me they have never heard of Arizona or Italy. The information is right there for the taking. Nobody's stopping you from learning about how little integrity these people have and how deep the rot goes. |
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I'll just offer this to ponder
Modern technology that makes it easier for Anonymous, Assange, et al, to get information they could never have 30 years ago, also makes it easier to cheat the system.
I worked for a company that assembled voting machines. They are typically a tablet interface with some electronics in the background, all mounted on a collapsible base. Although I was not directly involved, I watched these machines get their software loaded from a USB stick. Do you know what was on that stick? NO, you don't. Neither do I. Someone does. Or maybe no single individual does. Slot machines in Vegas early on, were random chance. They evolved into a programmable device with algorithms that provide enough payout to keep people coming back and enough advantage that the house is always favored. What makes ANYONE believe that the election could not be just as "programmed" as the slot machines? Maybe every other Trump vote goes to Hillary? Maybe every 1000th vote goes to Johnson? It would be extremely easy and I trust NO ONE anymore. You can call me a foil hat wearer, but realize the effort being put into destroying Trump and keeping Hillary out of prison. With good old fashioned weaponry, we ended Kennedy's presidency. It's much easier today just to prevent a presidency up front and save a lot of mess. May as well pop this in here too... https://conservativedailypost.com/po...trump-ballots/ |
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Also Smartmatic personnel control not just the individual voting machine count, they also control the vote collating at the state-level. All that data goes into their mainframe, and out spits a result.
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That just has to be a coincidence.
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Just as an example of a recent poll that shows Hillary up a relatively modest + 6 (compared to the outlier polls), note the internals of the Reuters poll.
Now think about this. First, +22 for women. That's just ridiculous. There is no data anywhere that shows the electorate turning out 61% women and 39% men. Then you have the usual +12 for democrats when nationally it's more like +5. And then, wow, then you have a +4 for Hillary among men. Among men! The only way to do that is to heavily poll D-men versus R-men, and that's why they needed a +22 women bias because they had to offset that by polling more R-women than D-women. But that's OK, they can fix it all that way. So they do. You see, there's no reason to have these skewed sample groups unless they are trying for a certain result. One that makes people who only watch the MSM feel the way they want them to feel. Don't be that person! And for the hell of it, here's the Podesta Wikileak email where they discuss this very thing. Quote:
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A lot more people get their news from social media and the internet than they used to. Those tens of thousands of people showing up for literally hundreds of Trump rallies come from somewhere.
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been a while....this all started near 1/2 century ago..... |
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