Iranian Jets can't hit chit

[boracayjohnny]

Originally Posted by onedef92

The Phantoms used twin GE J79 turbofans, right? The F-4's one of my favorite, too. A brutal, blunt instrument bristling to the gills with weaponry!

Loved her TIE fighter howl and thick, copious trails of black smoke they spewed in flight. Did you know there were proposals to name the F4H "Satan" and "Mithras", the Persian god of light?

In the end, the aircraft was given the less controversial name "Phantom II", the first "Phantom" being another McDonnell jet fighter, the FH-1 Phantom.

The Phantom II was briefly given the designation F-110A and the name "Specter" by the USAF, but neither name was used.

CEO Jim McDonnell was obsessed with the occult and gave nearly all his military aircraft demonic and supernatural names.

I got lucky and was assigned to Clark AB, Philippines. Clark was home to the "Third Herd" or 3rd Tac Fighter Wing. The F4 was a loud mofo and I've had to cover my ears many times due to them taking off and even a coupla times when they "attacked" the base during war games. A story or a picture sure brings back a lot of memories.

Here's a 3rd F4 in flight with the smoke trail you were talking about Julian:



Assorted Clark F4 pics:

















I saved my favorite picture for last. This picture has Mount Arayat in the background. Mount Arayat is still a landmark for the area.

[Iron Chef]

Originally Posted by 69camfrk

Just because I like F-4's, here is one of the few still operational by the USAF. And Chef, they are too faster than your dog Chuck!!

You've never seen Chuck chasing a pork chop tied to a stick.

[Kevin_73]

Originally Posted by 69camfrk

And Chef, they are too faster than your dog Chuck!!

A glacier going uphill is faster than Chuck.

[69camfrk]

Originally Posted by Iron Chef

You've never seen Chuck chasing a pork chop tied to a stick.

[Iron Chef]

Originally Posted by Kevin_73

A glacier going uphill is faster than Chuck.

You be nice to him. Mean man. He loves you.

[69camfrk]

Originally Posted by Iron Chef

May I present to you "Chuck"...faster than a F-4!

[boracayjohnny]

Originally Posted by Iron Chef

You've never seen Chuck chasing a pork chop tied to a stick.

Originally Posted by Kevin_73

A glacier going uphill is faster than Chuck.

Originally Posted by 69camfrk

May I present to you "Chuck"...faster than a F-4!

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Iron Chef

You've never seen Chuck chasing a pork chop tied to a stick.

Don't feel bad.....that's how my Mom got the dog to play with me, too.





Actually, we never had a dog when I was growing up....just cats. That's a situation I rectified when I became an adult, er, um, started living on my own.

[Kevin_73]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

Don't feel bad.....that's how my Mom got the dog to play with me, too.

[DJ_Critterus]

Originally Posted by Cybercowboy

Yeah, it was just another story the media/government complex buried until after the election. Can't give the electorate actual news that could adversely affect their opinion of Dear Leader.

Originally Posted by FasterTraffic

Iran is the world's troll. My guess is they shoot at the drone, but don't hit it, intentionally to provoke an aggressive response. Shooting down the drone would cross the line; there's actual damage. If they shoot at the drone and get America to shoot back, you better believe there'd be "Great Western Satan Attacks Peaceful Muslim Country" headlines all over the place.

Saddam might have been using the same playbook thinking the other Muslim countries would come to his aid against the West after taunting the world with WMD threats.

My thoughts, too. Not like the Useless Nations will do anything about the protest we filed, either.

Sounds like them trying to provoke us into a war so they can also attack Israel.

[DJ_Critterus]

Originally Posted by boracayjohnny

It's true. Them fellas is ripe.

In Afghanistan when they held the weekly Bazaar, we'd take the extra toiletries (small sizes) that nobody would take because they were already loaded up on them and trade them for DVDs and wot-not. Believe me, that stuff was like gold to them, but for the life of me, I swear they couldn't figure out how to use it correctly.

[DJ_Critterus]

Originally Posted by onedef92

With those howling J79's, that mofo wails like a TIE Fighter, too!

I built that joker, too. In fact, I had the entire Revell (four F4E Thunderbirds in formation) edition model kit.

I saw them perform in 1978 over Godman Army Airfield at Fort Knox and I haven't been the same since! My Dad bought that kit for my for my 13th birthday.

i was amazed to find out that the first versions of the F4 weren't equiped with cannons because they weren't designed for air to air combat. I think later on in the Vietnam war they were given the cannons. Correct me if I'm wrong, please.

[ApexOversteer]

Originally Posted by DJ_Critterus

i was amazed to find out that the first versions of the F4 weren't equiped with cannons because they weren't designed for air to air combat. I think later on in the Vietnam war they were given the cannons. Correct me if I'm wrong, please.

The consensus at the time was that air-to-air missile technology and supersonic speeds had made a turning fight at gun range a thing of the past.

Reality showed that only one out of every three of the early sparrow air-to-air missiles tracked at a target once let off the rail and the enemy learned quickly the Phantom didn't have a gun and would draw them into turning fights that the Phantoms couldn't win.

Guns were eventually added.

[DJ_Critterus]

Originally Posted by ApexOversteer

The consensus at the time was that air-to-air missile technology and supersonic speeds had made a turning fight at gun range a thing of the past.

Reality showed that only one out of every three of the early sparrow air-to-air missiles tracked at a target once let off the rail and the enemy learned quickly the Phantom didn't have a gun and would draw them into turning fights that the Phantoms couldn't win.

Guns were eventually added.

that's what i remember seeing on the Military Channel, too.

[ApexOversteer]

Originally Posted by DJ_Critterus

that's what i remember seeing on the Military Channel, too.

Dogfights Episode 5: Hell Over Hanoi

The DVD set gets a lot of usage 'round these parts.

[boracayjohnny]

Originally Posted by DJ_Critterus

In Afghanistan when they held the weekly Bazaar, we'd take the extra toiletries (small sizes) that nobody would take because they were already loaded up on them and trade them for DVDs and wot-not. Believe me, that stuff was like gold to them, but for the life of me, I swear they couldn't figure out how to use it correctly.

Damn, I wish I hadda thought of that. I paid cash for the things I bought. Supposedly, the carpet dealy-o I bought is worth much more than the $60 I paid for it.

[onedef92]

Originally Posted by DJ_Critterus

that's what i remember seeing on the Military Channel, too.

They also said heat from the jungle vegetation in 'Nam wreaked havoc with the early Sparrow's tracking systems, too, in certain air combat situations.

They later added the pod-mounted, 120 mm. Vulcan Cannon.

[onedef92]

Originally Posted by boracayjohnny

Damn, I wish I hadda thought of that. I paid cash for the things I bought. Supposedly, the carpet dealy-o I bought is worth much more than the $60 I paid for it.

The last time my brother was in Iraq, he bought home some ghetto-assed, silkscreened, Hard Rock Baghdad Cafe t-shirt made from panty hose. Gurantee you could only wear it once before it disintegrated.

[badbirdcage]

Originally Posted by Cybercowboy

Yeah, it was just another story the media/government complex buried until after the election. Can't give the electorate actual news that could adversely affect their opinion of Dear Leader.

Supposedly this regular flight in international air space was a "classified" mission for the drone and the incident couldn't be released to the American public due to the classification six days before the election. After the election it wasn't quite as classified and we dummies were permitted to know what happened; as per information release. Like they say, timing is everything.

[jaxgator]

Originally Posted by boracayjohnny

I got lucky and was assigned to Clark AB, Philippines. Clark was home to the "Third Herd" or 3rd Tac Fighter Wing. The F4 was a loud mofo and I've had to cover my ears many times due to them taking off and even a coupla times when they "attacked" the base during war games. A story or a picture sure brings back a lot of memories.

I was a Military Working Dog Handler stationed at Clark back in '80-'82. One of my tasks was to patrol the perimeter. Sometimes this meant that I would be around the runway. I remember times when I would be at the end of the runway at night watching F-4's taking off with after burners. Way But yeah, loud as shit!