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Old 04-16-2015, 8:25am   #1
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Officials say several South Bend field trips are planned for some third graders over the next week. But only for black third graders.

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SOUTH BEND, IN --
Officials say several South Bend field trips are planned for some third graders over the next week - but only for black third graders, WBND-TV reports.

The school district says the trips are supposed to encourage African American kids to think positively about college. But some parents are asking, why can't everyone go?

The district says these are not meant to be discriminatory trips.

"We should be able to do everything together and not separate," said Charles Yost, South Bend dad.

"I feel like all kids should be going," said Deidra Mullings, South Bend mom, said.

"It creates a double standard," said South Bend mom Kelley Garing.

"I want these third graders to have the opportunity to think of themselves as college students," said Dr. G. David Moss, African/American Inclusion with South Bend Community School Corporation.
Moss says, statistically, black students are less likely to think of college as a real possibility.

"Our black kids are struggling academically," he said.

That's why he says he organized these field trips for them to visit higher education institutions around South Bend.

"Take them to a college campus, have them meet with African American students modeling the idea that as a black person, college is a great place," Moss said.

But this didn't sit well with some South Bend parents, who say it should include everyone.

"I just think it breeds intolerance and creates misunderstandings," Garing said.

"We're all supposed to be one community right? We're all supposed to have equal rights," Yost said.

One mother said she understands Dr. Moss' mission.

"I don't think it's a race issue, I think they're giving black children a chance," said Erika Herrons. "It's giving them a chance, it's letting them know that there's something else out here besides, you know, being out here in these streets."

Dr. Moss says the field trips were never meant to offend anyone.

"It was not meant to be exclusionary, it was only meant to support and give these kids what they need to think positively about themselves and about their future," he said.

After all, he says, it's his job to solely think about South Bend's African American youth.

"I was hired to look at the issues facing African American kids in the SBCSC, and my job specifically says that I need to develop programs and develop strategies to help these kids and their families become more successful academically," Moss said.

And while it still leaves some parents feeling left out, it might have at least started a necessary conversation.

"I think if anything, it still creates a divide," Garing said.

"It's really about supporting and helping these students become the best adults they can," Moss said.

The first field trip is scheduled for Thursday; third graders will be visiting Ivy Tech - a community college. A trip Monday will visit Bethel College. There are seven primary schools involved, and they'll be touring three different colleges in South Bend.
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More liberal Logic.

I suggest they have White only field trips to the Ghetto so they understand the costs of the "Great Society" programs and how they have destroyed Black families and has become a cancer to all Americans.
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I could go on a long rant.

Instead, I'll keep it short.



F**king Pathetic.
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What's next?

They gonna want their own drinking fountains?
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I'm going to start applying for "diversity chief" positions, then I'll sue for discrimination if I don't get the jobs.
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All he had to do was ensure there were black and other monority college students there to talk about the advantages of attending. Speak to the group as a whole, and specifically to the minorities to promote the idea that they all can continue their educations. Message delivered, no one excluded.

The white kids probably wouldn't care if the speakers were predominately minorities.

This ain't rocket science.
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Great idea!
Let's separate the kids by color, then tell them that they should all be treated equally.
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What if they have a white parent, and a black parent?
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What's next?

They gonna want their own drinking fountains?
Yeah, and their own special bus seats.











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Another alternative headline option is, "Messy v. Ferguson: IN Field Trips ONLY for the Black Kids."

The Rise and Fall of Jim Crow . Jim Crow Stories . Plessy v. Ferguson | PBS
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I wanna tour Willy's Fried Chicken & Watermelon Emporium.
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gotta start em young
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All he had to do was ensure there were black and other monority college students there to talk about the advantages of attending. Speak to the group as a whole, and specifically to the minorities to promote the idea that they all can continue their educations. Message delivered, no one excluded.

The white kids probably wouldn't care if the speakers were predominately minorities.

This ain't rocket science.
This...

How and the heck are kids going to feel like they are all the same when people keep trying to make them different?

When they quit trying to separate kids by groups.. sooner or later a generation or two from now there will have no more issues..





Exactly!

Kids only learn what their parents teach them..

Sadly a lot of stupid parents pass it on..
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Exactly!

Kids only learn what their parents teach them..

Sadly a lot of stupid parents pass it on..
Media helps in the effort.
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remember son, you are just as good and smart as everyone else, that's why there are all sorts of social programs to help you along....

(wait for one confused kid to grow up)...
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More liberal Logic.

I suggest they have White only field trips to the Ghetto so they understand the costs of the "Great Society" programs and how they have destroyed Black families and has become a cancer to all Americans.
OUTSTANDING!
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Another alternative headline option is, "Messy v. Ferguson: IN Field Trips ONLY for the Black Kids."

The Rise and Fall of Jim Crow . Jim Crow Stories . Plessy v. Ferguson | PBS
I'd like to hear your input of this trend Julian.
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if he grabbing his wallet?



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How and the heck are kids going to feel like they are all the same when people keep trying to make them different?

When they quit trying to separate kids by groups.. sooner or later a generation or two from now there will have no more issues..





Exactly!

Kids only learn what their parents teach them..

Sadly a lot of stupid parents pass it on..
And he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven." - Matthew 18:3
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