Trump Indictment Thread (sorry Zeek)

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by slewfoot

Trump is a simple Narcissistic, Entitled Douchebag. He's admitted to it all, well except for the women part. I still do not see any GOP backing on him except for that lip locking suck-hole Lindsey Graham.

I never claimed Biden was the best choice, just the lesser of two who have mental issues. Trump has lost his fkn mind, Biden has some left.

My plus on Biden is complete lack of social media and starting crap. Trump is a racist with bullying dictator style of governing. He can't keep a respectable staff for very long.

All the crap he pulled the last time will happen all over again. If Pence were to make it in, I would vote for him over Biden.

At least he has values

You said it, now prove it.
Once you realize it is a lie, a lie to serve your narrative, you need to apologize to all in here, and take a self-imposed vacation.

[cptlo306]

Hardcore Trumpers: Anyone that doesn't support Trump regardless of what he does is a weak RINO globalist ignorant person.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

You said it, now prove it.
Once you realize it is a lie, a lie to serve your narrative, you need to apologize to all in here, and take a self-imposed vacation.

Don't hold your breath.

[TheRealBadger]

Originally Posted by gs568

Best President in our country’s history. Prove me wrong.

I know that you believe that.

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by Taurus

Trump has been Trump ever since he came down the escalator and that hasn't changed. Maybe that's the problem?

Trump was loved by all, everyone wanted his name on their product, he was the #1 ratings guy on network TV,,, and then he said he would rid dc of corruption and thieves.

If you believe he has been treated fairly, we can stop discussing Trump.

Also, you do not have to use the word 'hate' to show others you hate someone, your other words are sufficient.

[TheRealBadger]

Originally Posted by cptlo306

Hardcore Trumpers: Anyone that doesn't support Trump regardless of what he does is a weak RINO globalist ignorant person.

You forgot to add “idiot, blind, mother****er, ****er, asshole, Chicom shill, etc”

They only know one way, when cornered, ATTACK

[TheRealBadger]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

Trump was loved by all, everyone wanted his name on their product, he was the #1 ratings guy on network TV,,, and then he said he would rid dc of corruption and thieves.

If you believe he has been treated fairly, we can stop discussing Trump.

Also, you do not have to use the word 'hate' to show others you hate someone, your other words are sufficient.

Loved by all

[UniqueDoug]

Originally Posted by aerovette

Doug, if that was your take away. then that's great. You just stick with that. I'm not gonna go all "soda fountain" on you and attack. You just go with what you think I said.

You can do all the ad hominem attacks and condescension you want, it’s not gonna make your position or your analogy any stronger. Your whole post was essentially about whataboutism.

You can continue to cry about it, I really don’t care, the Republicans have been getting punked, so the choice is easy, choose somebody that exhibits better behavior (unlike Trump), and/or figure out how to cheat and work the system better, because the political system is not going to change no matter how much you whine.

[StudleyJames]

Originally Posted by Taurus

Exactly, the people Trump and his supporters claim to be clueless keep outsmarting him. Happens all the time in Trump world.

There is no outsmarting going on, When the game is rigged 100% to one side, and the other side keeps playing by the rules, they will loose, thats why Trump is not our current POTUS which is not the will of the people.

[gs568]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

Trump was loved by all, everyone wanted his name on their product, he was the #1 ratings guy on network TV,,, and then he said he would rid dc of corruption and thieves.

If you believe he has been treated fairly, we can stop discussing Trump.

Also, you do not have to use the word 'hate' to show others you hate someone, your other words are sufficient.

They loved him for his money before he was elected president. Not a single word about him being a racist. He actually won awards from black organizations.

He has known about the corruption in our political system for ages. I have no doubt he greased a palm or two.

It still comes back to the fact that he cannot be bribed with sex or money like any other politician. His actions interfere with all of the industries that make millions off of these endless wars. His actions interfere with the steady flow of cheap illegal immigrant labor. His actions take away from all of the countries that sell us crude and hate our guts at the same time. Career politicians talk and talk about problems but rarely solve the problems.

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by Taurus

So comparing America to Nazi Germany, right.

I think I know you better than that. The Jews were never accused of committing a crime, they were persecuted for being Jews. I'm not sure how you can compare the holocaust, a mass extermination of human beings, to Trump being accused of committing crimes like stealing and hiding classified documents.

If that's really what you think then OK I guess.

Let us ALL be objective in here.
Do we think olamo's house, paid for by bribes related to national security and corps he did favors for while in office, would have been raided with 30 long guns and kevlar if he had a few non-detrimental classified documents while biden resided and garland took the orders.

As of today, we do not know how many documents of which Trump was the addressee, the nature of the documents, the correspondence between Trump lawyers and the National Archives.

What we do know is biden as a senator stole classified documents not specific to him, he had them poorly safeguarded in multiple locations, he was allowed to have his lawyers handle with no gov intervention, and the news of this has pushed into the ground deeper than Jimmy Hoffa.

Yep, these are your people you side with when you oppose Trump.

And yes, I can compare Trump's treatment to every socialists and facist regime, they all desired a one-party state with no elections needed due to they eliminated the opposition.
They want the Electoral College and the fillibuster and 60 vote in senate thrown out, while making dc and pr a state, while allowing 16-year olds to vote.

[BayouCountry]

I just heard a good interview with Andy McCarthy. He said the declassification is a non issue for the DOJ because the Espionage Act specifically deals with security violations. It doesn’t matter if the documents were declassified because they are not allowed to be out of government control.

Trump is more likely to get jail time on an obstruction charge according to McCarthy.

Media focus on Trump keeps the Biden family’s corruption out of the news. Mission accomplished!

[TheRealBadger]

Originally Posted by StudleyJames

There is no outsmarting going on, When the game is rigged 100% to one side, and the other side keeps playing by the rules, they will loose, thats why Trump is not our current POTUS which is not the will of the people.

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by TheRealBadger

If there is an analogy here, it’s closer to a sitting leader refusing to respect the will of the people and attempting to overthrow a government. Let’s not forget that same president also turns on his own people at the drop of a hat, has a great relationship with two atrocious dictators in Russia and North Korea. The later he calls a dear friend.

When it appears the entire world is against you, it’s not the world that is the problem.

Please provide us all with any harm that you personally suffered due to Trump keeping both russia and nkorea at bay.
I have searched an cannot find any agreements that did such to the American people.

Thanks for playing.

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by cptlo306

You are 100% percent correct. However, that doesn't mean Trump is innocent.

Some of us agree that the system is corrupt and skewed to one side while at the same time realize that Trump is his own worst enemy and could actually be guilty of committing crimes.

Here is what I struggle with regarding this case specifically. I wonder, in his shoes, what lengths would I go, to obtain, protect, copy, whatever, information that dispelled the things I am being accused of. It's an odd conundrum because he has to break one law, to prove he didn't break another law. Do I think Trump is a "can do no wrong" angel? Hell no. Do I think he is being specifically targeted? Absolutely. The part that seems to escape the left and the Trump haters is that he is not being targeted because of laws he may or may not have broken. He is being targeted and those laws are the weapons used to target him. You may see that as gray, but it is no different than having the local sheriff out to get you because you have a better house than he does. He will search and tail and record and do everything he can to "get you" and when he does, the reason will be valid, but the motivation is complete bullshit. That is where Trump is right now.

The goal is to destroy him, but not because he broke the law, but because he is a threat to their corrupt system. The alleged law breaking is simply the method by which they will achieve their goal.

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by CF mods eat dick

Yes the doj seems to be shaking in their boots! I think the people have spoken for America and they didnt want trump for round two!

Poor spin, Trump increased in 2020 by 11.25M votes, an 18% increase from 2016.

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by UniqueDoug

You can do all the ad hominem attacks and condescension you want, it’s not gonna make your position or your analogy any stronger. Your whole post was essentially about whataboutism.

You can continue to cry about it, I really don’t care, the Republicans have been getting punked, so the choice is easy, choose somebody that exhibits better behavior (unlike Trump), and/or figure out how to cheat and work the system better, because the political system is not going to change no matter how much you whine.

Thanks You're awesome.

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by UniqueDoug

Like Hek said, Trump brought this “persecution” on himself, even admitted on tape in ‘21 that “as president I could have declassified, but now I can’t.“

Guilty as charged, no persecution, Trump is not the Jew from the poor analogy.

In a civilized, fair country, crimes are punished and meted out based on intent and how many got hurt.

Due to you feel this is the crime of the century, please advise, if you were judge, what would the sentence be, and cite precedent.

Also, explain why depends joe, who is definitely a much greater abuser of the classified document rules, is getting a free pass, even though he did not hold office of potus when he made his actions.

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by CF mods eat dick

Give it a rest, that was trumps tag line. He did shit now he's been impeached twice and soon to be indicted on 7 charges. You hang iin there though!

You citing, thus agreeing, to the two banana republic impeachments allows a lot of insight to your intellect, character and personal narratives.

[UniqueDoug]

Originally Posted by aerovette

Thanks You're awesome.

Anytime, I’ll be here all day long, I’ll even check in on you while I’m doing my Le Mans piece to see if you need any more assistance, I’m heading up to Aldi, do you need a fresh box of Kleenex?