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Old 01-03-2013, 12:25pm   #81
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My wife and I have been talking about it too. It's less than 20 miles to Missouri from where we live now. Problem is how much it would cost to move right now with what we would lose on our house
We've been talking about Missouri as well as Texas and Tennessee.
All four of our daughters still live in this area and we think grandchildren will be coming soon, so we don't want to go too far away

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The cost of living is low here, and you could take over the car business
Sounds like a plan. Would I have to start talking with a Southern accent?

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Same here.
You're only a few miles from the Missouri border, right?
Would be a short move for you
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:30pm   #82
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Many who oppose individual ownership of firearms point to the "well regulated militia" part of the 2nd amendment and claim that the government can regulate the individual ownership of weapons.

In Heller v. District Of Columbia 2008 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that argument moot.

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(a) The Amendment’s prefatory clause announces a purpose, but does not limit or expand the scope of the second part, the operative clause. The operative clause’s text and history demonstrate that it connotes an individual right to keep and bear arms.

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That covers the 2nd Amendment within Federal Enclaves, but did not extend to the states. In a second case, McDonald v. City Of Chicago Illinois 2010, the U.S. Supreme Court decided that the 2nd Amendment, incorporated with the Fourteenth Amendment, extended to the states by virtue of two clauses within the Fourteenth Amendment, the Due Process Clause and the Privileges and Immunities Clause.

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This means that "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State" is moot, on both the federal and state levels.
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In Heller v. District Of Columbia 2008 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that argument moot.




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That covers the 2nd Amendment within Federal Enclaves, but did not extend to the states. In a second case, McDonald v. City Of Chicago Illinois 2010, the U.S. Supreme Court decided that the 2nd Amendment, incorporated with the Fourteenth Amendment, extended to the states by virtue of two clauses within the Fourteenth Amendment, the Due Process Clause and the Privileges and Immunities Clause.

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This means that "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State" is moot, on both the federal and state levels.
Yes but we are just one justice away from Heller being overruled and the left's fevered imagination of a complete gun ban coming true. I'm not one of those who thinks it is the SC job to "interpret" the constitution. It was written so that a person with a decent HS education can clearly understand what it says.
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Yes but we are just one justice away from Heller being overruled and the left's fevered imagination of a complete gun ban coming true. I'm not one of those who thinks it is the SC job to "interpret" the constitution. It was written so that a person with a decent HS education can clearly understand what it says.
Hasn't been overturned yet, so I'll use it to shut the feebles up as long as I can.
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Body count: In the last six months 292 killed (murdered) in Chicago. 221 killed in Iraq and Chicago has one of the strictest gun laws in the entire US.

President: Barack Hussein Obama, Senator: Dick Durbin, House Representative: Jesse Jackson Jr., Governor: Pat Quinn, Illinois House leader: Mike Madigan, Illinois Atty. Gen.: Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike), Mayor: Rahm Emanuel, The leadership in Illinois - all Democrats.

Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago .

Of course, they're all blaming each other.

Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

Chicago school system rated one of the worst in the country.

Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

State pension fund $78 Billion in debt, worst in country.

Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

Cook County ( Chicago ) sales tax 10.25% highest in country.

Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois .

And he is going to 'fix' Washington politics for us???

The Land of Lincoln , where our governors make our license plates.

But you know what? As long as they keep providing entitlements to the
population of Chicago , nothing is going to change, except the state will
go broke. And that is the exact direction that the democrats in the US
Congress, led by President Obama, seem intent on taking the entire
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My mother grew up on a family farm in central Illinois. As a boy, I spent a lot of time on that farm and thought that someday I would want to live in Illinois.

Now, I'm happy living in the flyover state next door and working in Chicago.
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BREAKING: Illinois Bill to Ban All Modern Firearms | The Truth About Guns


Truck Guy, it's time to move your carpet bagger ass south, and burn that place on the way out.
Not just yet, apparently.

Democrats pull plug on gun, ammo bans
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Not just yet, apparently.

Democrats pull plug on gun, ammo bans
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If they can't make it happen in Illinois, they sure as hell can't make it happen in Washington DC.
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If they can't make it happen in Illinois, they sure as hell can't make it happen in Washington DC.
I wouldn't be so sure. Obama just got four more years to rape and pillage this countries constitution.
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Curious to see what the new CCW legislation will looks like in Ill.
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Curious to see what the new CCW legislation will looks like in Ill.
It will be very expensive and extremely difficult to obtain under the existing regime running Illinois
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