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Old 03-11-2013, 06:09pm   #61
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Bragg is the brand I bought at the local grocery store. Do y'all drink it 3 times a day?
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Bragg is the brand I bought at the local grocery store. Do y'all drink it 3 times a day?
I messed up my first drink and put in 2 tablespoons I did the teaspoons today. I may try for another tonight. I'm also going to give the honey a try, since everything will be blooming before too long.
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Fwiw, im an Ace and AFPA certified trainer, if any of you guys/gals have any questions on strength, cardio, or any type of training, lemme know, ill help however I can!!
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Alright the moment of truth started the Bragg brand ACV last Thursday - down 4.5 pounds as of this morning!!!

I deliberately tried to maintain my same eating pattern and we went out Friday, Saturday and Sunday...did not avoid carbs but only ate a few bits of any bread I came across.

Still freaking unbelievable all the changes that have occurred.
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Down 3 lbs. since cutting out beer a week ago.
So, I take it we're not going for beers this week?
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Alright the moment of truth started the Bragg brand ACV last Thursday - down 4.5 pounds as of this morning!!!

I deliberately tried to maintain my same eating pattern and we went out Friday, Saturday and Sunday...did not avoid carbs but only ate a few bits of any bread I came across.

Still freaking unbelievable all the changes that have occurred.

That's great! Are you drinking the ACV 3 times a day?
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Fwiw, im an Ace and AFPA certified trainer, if any of you guys/gals have any questions on strength, cardio, or any type of training, lemme know, ill help however I can!!
Thanks! Barrage Incoming:

How possible/impossible will it be for me to build more upper body muscle mass with no access to weights?

I have this $100 POS:



And some push-up bars.

Allegedly, on the steepest incline and using all 4 resistance bands, the Weider POS is giving me 55% of my body weight + 50 lbs. I find it hard to believe that I was able to biceps curl 160 lbs, 80 lbs per arm, 23 times in a set. I ain't that ripped.

At any rate, I'm maxed out on the settings, losing weight is only going to make it worse, and I'm already at 20+ reps for curls, bench press (which is really more of an inclined press given your body angle I guess) and seated rows. Only pull-ups give me challenged. I do a set lying on my back with arms wide, and a set lying on my chest gripping the inner bars with my fists.

If I just keeping doing more reps am I just going to be burning calories and not increasing muscle mass???

I'm going to replace bench press with push-ups I think since push-ups using the push up bars and touching my chin to the carpet are actually challenging vs. the bench press on that thing. Is there anything I can do for my biceps short of spending $$$$ I don't have on dumbells??? Because sadly I can't do that. Also door frames are a no-go for those door frame pull-up bars.

Also, I was working out 2.5 times per week. On, off, off, On, off, off, On ... etc.

I was doing 5 exercises, 3 sets:

1. Curls
2. Bench Press
3. Close-Grip Pull-Ups
4. Seated Rows
5. Wide-Grip Pull-Ups

And doing max reps each time, so that my reps decreased in the second and third sets as my muscles tired and I couldn't do as many.

Is this the right way to go, or should I go with a lesser number of reps at first and shoot for a number that I can sustain through all 3 sets?

Would you recommend going to 3 set days a week instead of the on, off, off pattern giving me 2.5 on average?

Finally, nutrition. I am losing weight now and I want to lose FAST, so I've set a calorie deficit of ~800 to 1000lbs as max maximum daily allowance at 1600. I'm shooting for and have averaged so far a 1400 calorie average. My carbs are moderately low, averaging 60g per day and around 24g sugar. Haven't been checking but I'm sure my fiber is good. I get a good chunk of my carbs from fiber one bars, and I also take a citrucel pill every AM anyway.

While I'm eating so few calories, should I not work out as hard/much? Or keep doing what I was since it wasn't exactly extreme?

What is your opinion on creatine for someone like me? I have these pills:



They allege no water-weight retention. Didn't seem to notice any when taking them and I seemed to recover really well. Should I keep popping them pre-workout or just forget them?

My post-workout recovery drink is MetRX low carb protein powder + almond milk. Good???

Cliff Notes: I am poor and stuck at home with a child help me get sexy biceps and a decent looking chest and back for free.
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I have the cookie shakes so bad.

My wife got some big, soft, tasty snickerdoodles at Sam's Club Yesterday. I just want to take that box and go into the basement and eat all of the cookies.

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Hang in there. Try and equate each cookie with some miserable exercise.

I ran 4.21 miles tonight. Skipped the cake an ice cream at work. It looked awesome, but I have had too many cake and ice cream days without paying the fiddler.
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That's great! Are you drinking the ACV 3 times a day?
1 Thursday
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only 1 today (need to get another bottle for work)
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1 Thursday
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only 1 today (need to get another bottle for work)
I think I'll pick up a bottle tomorrow. I wonder if it'll help with the constant digestive problems I seem to have, no matter how much I avoid gluten.

Edit: Did a quick google search. ACV with mother is naturally gluten free. But even better...a lot of people (with Celiac Disease) are talking (on various forums, etc.) about how much it has benefited them.

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only 1 today (need to get another bottle for work)
Thanks! I drank 1 yesterday morning and I'm drinking 1 now. I hate to admit this but I have already been dieting for over 3 weeks and I have only lost 1 freakin' pound. It's very discouraging.
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Hang in there. Try and equate each cookie with some miserable exercise.
I combated the shakes by heading to Kroger determined to satisfy my sweet tooth and stay on course.

Kroger Caramel flavored and Apple Cinnamon flavored rice cakes are AWESOME. I don't remember rice cakes being any good. Have they significantly advanced rice cake technology over the last decade or are my taste-buds just changed???

Also bought some Fifty-50 Crunch bars and wafer cookies. Binged on 2 servings (16 cakes) of rice cakes last night @ 9pm and one square of a Fifty-50 Crunch bar. 140 calories in all, still 60 calories less (and a ton less sugar) than one of those snicker doodle cookies that had been taunting me.

I have no desire for one now. The rice cakes satisfy the urge and are guilt free. Already budgeted some into today's menu.

Woke up almost another lb lighter at 213.8 lbs this AM.
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Make sure you guys are ALWAYS diluting that Vinegar stuff in water.

More on ACV:

The Reservations:
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Most of these claims have no evidence backing them up. Some -- like vinegar's supposed ability to treat lice or warts -- have been studied, and researchers turned up nothing to support their use. Other claims have been backed up by studies, but with a catch: vinegar may work, but not as well as other treatments. For instance, while vinegar is a disinfectant, it doesn't kill as many germs as common cleaners. And while vinegar does seem to help with jelly fish stings -- an old folk remedy -- hot water works better.

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Scientific Evidence of Apple Cider Vinegar Benefits:

...[T]here are some medical uses of vinegar that do have promise, at least according to a few studies...

Diabetes. The effect of vinegar on blood sugar levels is perhaps the best researched and the most promising of apple cider vinegar's possible health benefits. Several studies have found that vinegar may help lower glucose levels. For instance, a 2007 study of 11 people with type 2 diabetes found that taking two tablespoons of apple cider vinegar before bed lowered glucose levels in the morning by 4%-6%.

High cholesterol. A 2006 study showed evidence that vinegar could lower cholesterol. However, the study was done in rats, so it's too early to know how it might work in people.

Blood pressure and heart health. Another study in rats found that vinegar could lower high blood pressure. A large observational study also found that people who ate oil and vinegar dressing on salads five to six times a week had lower rates of heart disease than people who didn't. However, it's far from clear that the vinegar was the reason.

Cancer. A few laboratory studies have found that vinegar may be able to kill cancer cells or slow their growth. Observational studies of people have been confusing. One found that eating vinegar was associated with a decreased risk of esophageal cancer. Another associated it with an increased risk of bladder cancer.

Weight Loss. For thousands of years, vinegar has been used for weight loss. White vinegar (and perhaps other types) might help people feel full. A 2005 study of 12 people found that those who ate a piece of bread along with small amounts of white vinegar felt fuller and more satisfied than those who just ate the bread.

While the results of these studies are promising, they are all preliminary. Many were done on animals or on cells in a lab. The human studies have been small. Before we will truly know whether vinegar has any health benefits, much larger studies are needed.

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What Are the Risks of Apple Cider Vinegar?

On the whole, the risks of taking occasional, small amounts of apple cider vinegar seem low. But using apple cider vinegar over the long term, or in larger amounts, could have risks. Here are some things to keep in mind.

Apple cider vinegar is highly acidic. The main ingredient of apple cider vinegar is acetic acid. As the name suggests, it's quite harsh. Apple cider vinegar should always be diluted with water or juice before swallowed. Pure apple cider vinegar could damage the tooth enamel and the tissues in your throat and mouth. One study found a woman who got an apple cider vinegar supplement stuck in her throat suffered lasting damage to her esophagus. In addition, vinegar has been known to cause contact burns to the skin.

Long-term use of apple cider vinegar could cause low potassium levels and lower bone density. If you already have low potassium or osteoporosis, talk to your health care provider before using apple cider vinegar.

Apple cider vinegar could theoretically interact with diuretics, laxatives, and medicines for diabetes and heart disease.

If you have diabetes, check with your health care provider before using apple cider vinegar. Vinegar contains chromium, which can alter your insulin levels.


I may have to give it a try.
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OK- you guys have convinced me. Bought a bottle of ACV and a jar of raw honey at Whole Food$. It's really not that bad diluted. I had forgotten how good raw honey is as well. I think I'm going to go a glass a day and see how it works.
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OK- you guys have convinced me. Bought a bottle of ACV and a jar of raw honey at Whole Food$. It's really not that bad diluted. I had forgotten how good raw honey is as well. I think I'm going to go a glass a day and see how it works.
ACV (Has to contain the mother)

Honey - has to be local. Check the label. It is good ! Mine isn't too sweet to the taste.
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Honey - has to be local. Check the label. It is good ! Mine isn't too sweet to the taste.
This is local honey. Bits of bee and comb.
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OK- you guys have convinced me. Bought a bottle of ACV and a jar of raw honey at Whole Food$. It's really not that bad diluted. I had forgotten how good raw honey is as well. I think I'm going to go a glass a day and see how it works.
I'm going to pick some up today.
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Thanks! I drank 1 yesterday morning and I'm drinking 1 now. I hate to admit this but I have already been dieting for over 3 weeks and I have only lost 1 freakin' pound. It's very discouraging.
Don't get discouraged. Maybe just tweak your diet a bit and see what happens.
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I'm going to pick some up today.
It DOES take some getting used to. The honey cuts the vinegar taste quite a bit.
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