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Old 02-04-2013, 02:22pm   #1
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Default 1970 LS6 Chevelle Barn/Garage Find

One owner, parked since 1974, 40k. miles. Blown engine - makes it a NOM and hurts the value. But, lots of original documentation and un-restored. Guy says he got it pretty cheap...but, doesn't say the exact price.

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wonder if he'll trade for an 84?
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Oh my...
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Why does the blown engine make it NOM? Can't it be repaired or rebuilt and it still count as an original motor?
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Old 02-04-2013, 02:50pm   #5
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i just lost my shit watching that... everyone came by to see what I was laughing at.
good show.
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That is my favorite year Chevelle. They got it right that year, especially the tail lamps.

Wow. One please
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I like the 69's.
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Why does the blown engine make it NOM? Can't it be repaired or rebuilt and it still count as an original motor?
If you can document a factory replacement engine, you take a ding on value, but not as bad as a straight NOM.
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No. It has the be the motor that was installed at the factory and
'as delivered' to the dealer. Anything else is NOM, CE replacement, non-matching number, etc...

Big difference in $$$ if a purist wants it. Same with Corvettes, etc...

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I had a triple black '69 SS 396 during HS, back in the 80's. One guy offered me a '69 Conv. SS396 and a coupe both for $1500 back then. Both had something wrong with the motors, but otherwise body/interior were good. They were just used cars back then. This was before the Muscle car craze and price inflation that happened later.

This guy use to bring his out to the local cruise night. He is the original owner and bought it locally. I tried to buy it several times, but he wanted to keep it in the family.

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I think I'd trade the Mrs. in on this.
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I like the 69's.
A good friend bought a new 69 SS 396 Chevelle and I almost bought one until I saw the 69 Z/28. Bought that instead. Another friend had a black 67 SS Chevelle with a 427 in it. May have boughht that car if h had it for sale.
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Always had a soft spot for 69s. I was brought home for the first time in an SS 396 4 speed car.
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No. It has the be the motor that was installed at the factory and
'as delivered' to the dealer. Anything else is NOM, CE replacement, non-matching number, etc...

Big difference in $$$ if a purist wants it. Same with Corvettes, etc...

Correct. But, its too easy to restamp a block with casting date codes that are "close".
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Do want.
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One of my clients is one of the top Chevelle restorers in the world. His shop is unbelievable, stacked with tons of NOS parts, multiple LS6 coupes and convertibles.
He said forgery is a big problem and people hire him to fly around the country to verify cars. The tough thing with Chevelles is that without a built sheet, its hard to prove what the car was equipped with. I couldn't get over what people were paying for the convertibles. I'll have to ask him about this car since he seems to know of all of these barn finds when they pop up.

I saw this car when he first picked it up, it was rough as hell.



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Al Grenning is the Corvette world 'pad expert'. He has been accumulating data for many years to build a database. I know with midyears you have to look at ALL the evidence - size of the fuel line, ignition, half-shafts, radiator, gauges, etc...some people won't go to all the trouble to fake it as a BB. Pad stamps can be inspected for 'broach marks'. But, that can be faked as well. The first '65 396 cars had a pretty specific build date. So, you can also check the VIN and see if it falls within that build time. A tank sticker is good, but doesn't contain the VIN #. You just have to look at all the evidence and how it is presented.

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Correct. But, its too easy to restamp a block with casting date codes that are "close".
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My cousin has a '70 SS 454. He has owned it for a bit over 30 yrs. He NEVER drives the thing. I've never actually checked the VIN or anything to confirm it being real SS. I figure it is none of my biz. It's a very nice car, but green on green.

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