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Old 08-19-2019, 07:10pm   #21
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First, congrats on the new job. 51%?, damn, I was happy with 5% out of the blue a couple weeks ago.


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They are in such panic mode now. LOL Already trying to make a counter offer. My manager did ask me to not burn bridges, so I gave them a courtesy 2 weeks, but they have already taken me off of the project I was assigned to start today..................
If they are offering more now, where was it before? Sorry, too late

I do agree with not burning bridges but when I left my last employer, it was more of a courtesy to my fellow (soon to be former) coworkers than the owner.
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Craig I think I might have mentioned something like this was bound to happen in the Corporate Environment you were in. You know I was a director in a Fortune 50 company and your observation about not being setup to compensate our stars is spot on. I had a few - lost them all - nothing I could do. Almost impossible to move a star up enough bands to make it competitive to what a small agile company could do. Hope the new gig works out. Don't burn yourself out that is what happened to a good friend of mine he retired way earlier than he should have he just gave too much and it finally caught up with him.
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Never accept the counter.

If you do, they will immediately begin searching for your replacement, and once they find him they will cut you loose because you are "disloyal."

I did once and that's exactly what happened
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Old 08-19-2019, 07:40pm   #24
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Craig I think I might have mentioned something like this was bound to happen in the Corporate Environment you were in. You know I was a director in a Fortune 50 company and your observation about not being setup to compensate our stars is spot on. I had a few - lost them all - nothing I could do. Almost impossible to move a star up enough bands to make it competitive to what a small agile company could do. Hope the new gig works out. Don't burn yourself out that is what happened to a good friend of mine he retired way earlier than he should have he just gave too much and it finally caught up with him.
I'm the effing energizer bunny. You offer me enough money, and appreciate my work ethic, I'll work till the end of the earth. Old company didn't deserve this level of commitment, but new company does. I may be 51, but I still have it in me to work 100 hours a week if I need to. When it means unlimited bank, with an epic base, it's not too difficult to put in the effort.

And yes, you did indicate that this would happen.
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Congratulations Craig. The corporate assholes are always abusing the rainmakers while rewarding their suck up cronies.
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Congratulations Craig. The corporate assholes are always abusing the rainmakers while rewarding their suck up cronies.
Pretty much. And as others have said...if you are willing to offer it up now, where was it before. As a rain maker, I should not have to ask for scraps. I doubt they'll ever figure this out.
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Many years ago I gave notice at a job I worked for almost 15 years. I was passed up for a supervisor role twice and the second guy they hired did nothing but stand around holding a coffee cup. the DAY BEFORE my last day, they asked me to go to HR and speak with them. HR asks me what it would take for me to stay. I let my requirements be known and she said, "If I make all of this happen, you are saying you will stay?" I paused and said "No".

The raise they offered was good, the position they offered was great, answering to a different manager was awesome...but they were 2 years too late.
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Proof that companies don’t care about people. Just about money.
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Good for you, sometimes the grass is greener...........
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Good for you, sometimes the grass is greener...........
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Yes, my bad, the green cash..........
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Maybe they wanted someone a bit more.... oh i don't know what word to use.... humble?



Congrats on the new gig.
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Maybe they wanted someone a bit more.... oh i don't know what word to use.... cheap?



Congrats on the new gig.
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Maybe they wanted someone a bit more.... oh i don't know what word to use.... humble?



Congrats on the new gig.
Humble and Datawiz don't usually find themselves in the same sentence.
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Old 08-20-2019, 02:01pm   #37
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Humble and Datawiz don't usually find themselves in the same sentence.

Just kidding Craig!
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Old company tried their best, promised a band bump and a promotion, and they were going to attempt to match the new salary, but I declined. Again, it's about a lot more than money.

They have started the off-boarding process.
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Today's corporations have the attitude that the harder you work for them, the worse they can treat you.
Glad you told them to shove it.
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Hell, I'm still on the books till 8/30, so I get paid for doing nothing. I'm good with that. I was willing to make it official yesterday, but manager instructed me to still give the 2 weeks.
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