|
Off Topic Off Topic - General non-Corvette related discussion. |
|
Share | Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
02-21-2024, 7:09pm | #1 | ||||||
Barn Stall Owner #93
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Uranus, Tx
Posts: 9,278
Thanks: 1,344
Thanked 9,006 Times in 2,778 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $24717333
|
Paid $550 for C2 alignment
Holy hell, nobody around here knows how to align the rear end. I finally found a high end hot rod/custom build/restoration shop that did a great job. But pricy as shit.
They did front and back since virtually every part is new. The rationale is that the rear toe adjustment is time consuming. I know this to be true. I drove it there yesterday. Felt like it was going to spin out, flip over, burst into flames. Drove back solid as a rock. After five years, I can drive it. |
||||||
The Following 13 Users Say Thank You to SnikPlosskin For This Useful Post: |
02-21-2024, 7:14pm | #2 | ||||||
Barn Stall Owner #55
Island14 Cardio Team
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: A sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory
Posts: 14,831
Thanks: 3,774
Thanked 9,235 Times in 4,394 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $23236
|
A lot of older cars are the same. You can't touch a nut without changing the geometry. Everything affects everything. Some of my older stuff, I ended up in what I called the spiral. You start adjusting things in a set pattern until you come upon two measurements that are correct
|
||||||
02-21-2024, 7:28pm | #3 | |||||||
Barn Stall Owner #93
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Uranus, Tx
Posts: 9,278
Thanks: 1,344
Thanked 9,006 Times in 2,778 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $24717333
|
Quote:
I changed to the largest tires that fit a stock C2, new wheels, new ball joints, tie rods, control arms and bushings, trailing arms and ujoints, rear spring, all bushings, steering wheel, changed geometry on rear camber rods, rebuilt diff, probably some shit I’m forgetting. All new rear brakes… Even saving and replacing the shims front and back meant nothing. I roughed it in doing a track alignment with string. |
|||||||
02-21-2024, 7:44pm | #4 | ||||||
A Real Barner
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Tidewater
Posts: 1,065
Thanks: 504
Thanked 608 Times in 312 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $500
|
Ran into that years ago with the Porsche 951. Not only does nobody know how to do it anymore, but it takes special tools that nobody has, including the Porsche indies. I had to buy the tools and bring the manuals to the shop, then have them try to figure out the specs since it wasn't in degrees. The factory service manual for my car is 7 volumes. It's been probably 10 years since I had it done, and was $300-something back then. I don't want to know how much it would be now.
|
||||||
The Following User Says Thank You to CurtP For This Useful Post: |
02-21-2024, 7:45pm | #5 | |||||||
Barn Stall Owner #55
Island14 Cardio Team
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: A sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory
Posts: 14,831
Thanks: 3,774
Thanked 9,235 Times in 4,394 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $23236
|
Quote:
|
|||||||
02-21-2024, 7:50pm | #6 | ||||||
Vette Barn Crew
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Ca
Posts: 722
Thanks: 0
Thanked 976 Times in 424 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $120
|
You're paying for the years of experience and skills acquired over decades, a lost skill these days. Makes me wonder when you watch these custom car/truck fabricators on Motor Trend, if something ever happens, you really either need to know your shit or bring it back to them if something bad happens.
|
||||||
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Swany00 For This Useful Post: |
02-21-2024, 8:48pm | #7 | ||||||
Chief Meat Gazer
Charter Member Barn Stall Owner #98 Barn Raising II,III,IV
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Ohio
Posts: 51,178
Thanks: 23,577
Thanked 33,919 Times in 12,356 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $5135124
|
|
||||||
The Following User Says Thank You to Mike Mercury For This Useful Post: |
02-21-2024, 9:27pm | #8 | |||||||
A Real Barner
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Green Acres is the place to be...
Posts: 37,937
Thanks: 6,437
Thanked 23,925 Times in 10,845 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $8122190
|
Quote:
|
|||||||
02-22-2024, 6:58am | #9 | ||||||
A Real Barner
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 3,972
Thanks: 1,219
Thanked 1,591 Times in 831 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $3694
|
I know someone here in Charleston that does it. But, once he passes, his son has maybe 10 years left and pff. Gone.
Its worth it too, now you can enjoy the vehicle.. |
||||||
02-22-2024, 7:46am | #10 | |||||||
Barn Stall Owner #117
Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: An hour outside the swamp
Posts: 10,822
Thanks: 4,910
Thanked 11,327 Times in 4,159 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $500
|
Quote:
Well, you've got a new car when it comes to the suspension and brakes. |
|||||||
02-22-2024, 12:25pm | #11 |
A Real Barner
Join Date: May 2013
Location: On the Gulf Coast
Posts: 5,977
Thanks: 1,961
Thanked 7,667 Times in 2,608 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $555
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to zeek For This Useful Post: |
02-22-2024, 12:47pm | #12 | ||||||
Barn Stall Owner #421
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Those satisfactions are permanent
Posts: 15,091
Thanks: 6,310
Thanked 7,941 Times in 3,921 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $500
|
I've been aligning cars since 1983. Even then, we were performing 4 wheel alignments, as many of the new cars had adjustable rear axles (front wheel drive and IRS cars). Thrust angle was a big deal, as were camber and toe settings. Sometimes it involved taking the rear brakes off the car and inserting shims between the backing plates and the rear axle flange or cutting strut mounts at the prescribed spots to be able to move the struts into specifications. I did a some C2 and C3 Corvettes, and it was time consuming. 35 years ago, about a $150 job. So $500 seems like a good deal to me, today. The good news is, that you won't have to touch it for another 50,000 miles if you don't hit anything.
|
||||||
The Following User Says Thank You to GTOguy For This Useful Post: |
02-22-2024, 2:10pm | #13 | ||||||
Vette Barn nOOb
|
The Chilton C2 manual says exactly how to do it.
That's how I did it in '92. |
||||||
02-22-2024, 5:59pm | #14 | ||||||
10cm member
Barn Stall Owner #90125 NCM Supporter '19,'20
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Houston, Tejas, Estados Unidos
Posts: 82,755
Thanks: 37,661
Thanked 41,811 Times in 17,397 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $2621492
|
For that price, I would have asked if they would change my windshield wiper blades as part of the deal.
|
||||||
02-23-2024, 10:29am | #15 | ||||||
A Real Barner
Join Date: Jul 2022
Posts: 3,911
Thanks: 609
Thanked 3,710 Times in 1,668 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $500
|
This VisuaLiner machine was used to calibrate the factory alignment machines back in the day. It was two miles from me until about a year ago when the only guy that could run it passed away (my car is shown in the pic) - $125 and $25 tip to do a 4 wheel alignment after I rebuilt the entire rear end:
|
||||||
02-23-2024, 11:42am | #16 | |||||||
Barn Stall Owner #421
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Those satisfactions are permanent
Posts: 15,091
Thanks: 6,310
Thanked 7,941 Times in 3,921 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $500
|
Quote:
|
|||||||
02-23-2024, 5:16pm | #17 | ||||||
A Real Barner
Join Date: Jul 2022
Posts: 3,911
Thanks: 609
Thanked 3,710 Times in 1,668 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $500
|
The VisuaLiner machine pictured began to shock the operator (my buddy Malone; 74 years old) and I did a few fixes on it for him but the internals were just all going to crap with age issues and eventually the shop's insurance company said it had to go. (Malone recently passed too - very sad).
|
||||||
The Following User Says Thank You to Frankie the Fink For This Useful Post: |
02-23-2024, 5:46pm | #18 | |||||||
Barn Stall Owner #421
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Those satisfactions are permanent
Posts: 15,091
Thanks: 6,310
Thanked 7,941 Times in 3,921 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $500
|
Quote:
Kind of like an old fashioned tune up sequence: points dwell, timing, then carb. Not rocket science. |
|||||||
The Following User Says Thank You to GTOguy For This Useful Post: |
02-23-2024, 7:32pm | #19 | |||||||
Barn Stall Owner #93
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Uranus, Tx
Posts: 9,278
Thanks: 1,344
Thanked 9,006 Times in 2,778 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $24717333
|
Quote:
My rear? Camber very close, toe all over the place like Oprah’s vayjayjay. |
|||||||
02-23-2024, 7:33pm | #20 | |||||||
Barn Stall Owner #93
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Uranus, Tx
Posts: 9,278
Thanks: 1,344
Thanked 9,006 Times in 2,778 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $24717333
|
Quote:
|
|||||||
The Following User Says Thank You to SnikPlosskin For This Useful Post: |
|
|
Support the Barn: |
Download the Mobile App; |
Follow us on Facebook: |
||