The CPAC Defender of the Constitution Award goes to ...

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The CPAC Defender of the Constitution Award goes to: Donald Rumsfeld ?


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The CPAC Defender of the Constitution Award goes to: Donald Rumsfeld? - National Foreign Policy | Examiner.com



I would like to say I’m shocked over this choice; however, the neocon dominated Conservative Political Action Conference has played us before with their other choices: John Ashcroft and Rush Limbaugh.

I’m trying to understand.
Is CPAC just trying to give the folks at MSNBC material for their talking head shows ?

This ranks right up there with giving a Nobel Peace Prize to a drone-happy, non-combat troops in Iraq, out-Bush Bush policy in Afghanistan current president.

Let’s see, Donald Rumsfeld and his defense of the US Constitution, I’m trying to connect the dots.

Here is a man who led the unconstitutional invasion and occupation of a sovereign nation in Iraq.
He allowed civilian contractors use torture techniques on AbuGhraib detainees.
His own generals turned on him.

The list could really go on and on.

Could Mr. Rumsfeld even tell what Article One, Section 8, Clause 11 says in the US Constitution ?

Who’s next for this award, Sean Hannity?!



I’m a little at a loss for words, so I’ll let the “Defender of the Constitution” speak for himself:

*Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know.
We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know.*

~ Rumsfeld .. Feb. 12, 2002, Department of Defense news briefing

YouTube - A Symphony of Lies

[ChasC5]

[mrvette]

Jest cause you all dunno what he nose....dat's fine....

stay ignorant your annuses....

[Bill]

....because everybody knows that the best way to protect and honor the US Constitution is by mandating government spying with the Patriot Act and starting elective wars.

Nothing says "I love the Constitution" like trampling on the rights of the citizens, wasting their money and getting their sons and daughters killed for no discernable benefit to the US.

CPAC credibility with this Libertarian: 0%

[Scissors]

It's the "defender of the constitution" award, not the "perfect adherence to the constitution" award.

However:

Here is a man who led the unconstitutional invasion and occupation of a sovereign nation in Iraq.
He allowed civilian contractors use torture techniques on AbuGhraib detainees.
His own generals turned on him.

None of these three items are prohibited in the U.S. Constitution. The only one even addressed at all is the first one; however, Congress authorized combat operations in Iraq. Nothing in the constitution specifically mentions combat operations which are not formally declared wars.

But is he the best choice for such an award? No, not even close.

[ChasC5]

Oh God; Stop it, you're killing me.

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by Scissors

It's the "defender of the constitution" award, not the "perfect adherence to the constitution" award.

However:

None of these three items are prohibited in the U.S. Constitution. The only one even addressed at all is the first one; however, Congress authorized combat operations in Iraq. Nothing in the constitution specifically mentions combat operations which are not formally declared wars.

But is he the best choice for such an award? No, not even close.

Originally Posted by ChasC5

Oh God; Stop it, you're killing me.

The bolded reflects how they defend Bush and the neocons for Iraq & Afghanistan ...



*God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed.

The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. *


If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.

... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance ?

Let them take arms.
The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them.

What signify a few lives lost in a century or two ?

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

It is its natural manure.*



~ Thomas Jefferson ~ November 13, 1787, letter to William S. Smith, quoted in Padover's Jefferson On Democracy.

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Rumsfeld defends handling of Iraq war in new book.
Former defense chief speaks out for the first time since leaving office in 2006.


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Rumsfeld defends handling of Iraq war in new book - Politics - More politics - msnbc.com


WASHINGTON — Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld concludes in his new autobiography that the war in Iraq has been worth the cost and remains largely unapologetic about his handling of the conflict, The Washington Post reported on Wednesday.


Had the government of Saddam Hussein remained in power the Middle East would be "far more perilous than it is today,"
Rumsfeld wrote in his 800-page memoir, scheduled for release on Tuesday.

Rumsfeld and other U.S. officials cited the threat posed by Iraqi weapons of mass destruction as justification for the 2003 U.S.-led invasion.

No such weapons were found.



The former defense chief was a leading architect of the Iraq war.

He was fired by President George W. Bush in 2006 with U.S. troops bogged down after 3-1/2 years of fighting in Iraq.

Rumsfeld's book "Known and Unknown," a copy of which was obtained by The Washington Post, covers his entire life, but more than half deals with his six years as Bush's defense chief.

Speaking out for the first time since leaving office, Rumsfeld offers a vigorous explanation of his own thoughts and actions about the war and is making available on his website (www.rumsfeld.com) many previously classified or private documents, the Post reported.



Possible lapse in account of Iraq war

According to a New York Times story on the memoir, Rumsfeld says President George W. Bush called him into the Oval Office 15 days after the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks and "insisted on new military plans for Iraq."

NBC News' Jim Miklaszewski says that according to notes taken in the "tank" at the Pentagon four hours after American Flight 77 hit the building, it was Rumsfeld himself who raised the possibility of attacking Iraq.

At 1:50 p.m., in discussing a "whole range of military operations" and the "annihilation of terrorism" Rumsfeld says: “My interest is to hit Saddam Hussein at the same time, not to look only at UBL (Osama bin Laden).”



Reports of incoherent decision-making, policy drift

Much of Rumsfeld's explanation of what went wrong in the crucial first year of the occupation of Iraq stems from a pre-war failure to manage the post-war political transition when the State Department and Pentagon held vastly different views, the newspaper said.

Rumsfeld depicts Bush as presiding over a national security process that was marked by incoherent decision-making and policy drift, a detriment to the war effort, the Post said.



Rumsfeld suggests that Bush was at fault for not doing more to resolve disagreements among senior advisers.

Bush "did not always receive, and may not have insisted on, a timely consideration of his options before he made a decision, nor did he always receive effective implementation of the decisions he made," Rumsfeld wrote.



Regrets on dealing with detainees

Addressing charges that he failed to provide enough troops for the Iraq war, the former defense chief wrote: "In retrospect, there may have been times when more troops could have helped."

But Rumsfeld insists that if senior military officers had reservations about the size of the invading force, they never informed him, the Post said.

In a lengthy section on the administration's treatment of wartime detainees, Rumsfeld regrets not leaving office in May 2004, after the Abu Ghraib prison scandal erupted, The Washington Post said.

"Looking back, I see there are things the administration could have done differently and better with respect to wartime detention," Rumsfeld acknowledges.

YouTube - Rumsfeld: YOu go to war with the army you have

[ChasC5]

Never Believe your Lying Eyes

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Originally Posted by ChasC5

Never Believe your Lying Eyes

Rumsfelds' Comma in Legacy ...

[PortDawg]

Hey look..

This place has an ignore list also....