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Old 07-29-2016, 6:56pm   #41
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so would it be fair to say that one doesnt need to know everything about politics to see them on tv and get a feeling if they are a true genuine honest person?

Does one need to know about politics to be a qualified voter?
I only vote on candidates or initiatives that I have researched, but the results of elections seem to hint that not's not the case with all voters.

As far as I'm concerned, if you are ignorant on political matters, do your fellow citizens a favor and don't vote. I'm not one of those people who say voting is a duty. It's a right and should be practiced responsibly, like other rights.
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As far as I'm concerned, if you are ignorant on political matters, do your fellow citizens a favor and don't vote. I'm not one of those people who say voting is a duty. It's a right and should be practiced responsibly, like other rights.
I dont vote because its against my rules and regulations I live by not necessarily because Im doing my fellow citizens a favor.

If youve been lied to by every candidate may I ask why do you still vote? If memory and experience is whats needed to make a well thought out decision wouldnt you think by voting you would just be lying to yourself?

By you saying in your experience cadidates lie then it would be fair to say that one needs to have a lying ego to be a candidate. Would you agree?
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I dont vote because its against my rules and regulations I live by not necessarily because Im doing my fellow citizens a favor.

If youve been lied to by every candidate may I ask why do you still vote? If memory and experience is whats needed to make a well thought out decision wouldnt you think by voting you would just be lying to yourself?

By you saying in your experience cadidates lie then it would be fair to say that one needs to have a lying ego to be a candidate. Would you agree?
Everyone lies. It's human nature. if it's too much of it for me to tolerate, then I won't vote for that person. Not all voting is for people. Like I said, we have ballot initiatives in my state. For instance, in November we will be voting on several initiatives regarding the recreational use of marijuana, and peripheral issues such as how and if to tax it locally. There are also local initiatives about raising sales taxes in some localities. California's Proposition 13, which was itself a ballot initiative requires a vote to do this.
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Everyone lies. It's human nature. if it's too much of it for me to tolerate, then I won't vote for that person. Not all voting is for people. Like I said, we have ballot initiatives in my state. For instance, in November we will be voting on several initiatives regarding the recreational use of marijuana, and peripheral issues such as how and if to tax it locally. There are also local initiatives about raising sales taxes in some localities. California's Proposition 13, which was itself a ballot initiative requires a vote to do this.
would it be fair to say voting is unfair because people vote for whatever benefits themselves and will vote for whoever has the same world view as them?

That would mean people who vote are unfair people. So you have lying candidates running for whatever it is so they feel important and voters are unfair.

children dont know what lying is so I wouldnt agree that lying is human nature. There are tribes in the jungle do they lie? I just think as you get older you get lied to so many times that has been acceptable.

I however do think were all born with a survival instinct to be selfish
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make Trump look like a fool in the debates.....no way am I endorsing her but I think she like the half breed is a great speech maker and she has honed her debate skills.
His lack of vocabulary and child like faces will work against him. Again no way would I want her but I think we better get ready to get used to it.....
That's interesting the power she wields to some people. Let's revisit this after the first debate.
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She could just barely hold her own against a socialist crank who had the flag of the USSR hanging in his mayor's office during the 80's. Trump had to debate and win against a field of 16 politicians, several of which would have done very well against Hillary in a debate. And Trump will go there. Unlike Milquetoast Romney. Bring up foreign policy? He wins. Bring up domestic policy? He wins. Bring up national security? He wins. Bring up trade? He wins. Bring up having a vagina? Hillary may win that one.
The current vagina Trump has (sorry Malania), I am certain, is unintimidated by the leather lined dry socket Hillary rubs a pine deodorizer on each day.
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I dont vote because its against my rules and regulations I live by not necessarily because Im doing my fellow citizens a favor.

If youve been lied to by every candidate may I ask why do you still vote? If memory and experience is whats needed to make a well thought out decision wouldnt you think by voting you would just be lying to yourself?

By you saying in your experience cadidates lie then it would be fair to say that one needs to have a lying ego to be a candidate. Would you agree?
You've been lied to by everyone in your life. Serious. Do you stop living, No.

I don't know if you ever rode an amusement park ride like the Turnpike cars or Tin Lizzies or any of the boat rides. They have a steering wheel. It is not what keeps you on course, but you feel a responsibility to use the wheel anyway. Voting is just the same. Maybe your personal vote does nothing for you, but it could help someone else. Maybe your vote doesn't keep the country on course, but it should still provide a sense of responsibility. I waited late in life to vote and I regret it. Whether my vote makes a difference or not, there are people who LITERALLY died so I could vote. I owe it to them.
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You've been lied to by everyone in your life. Serious. Do you stop living, No.

I don't know if you ever rode an amusement park ride like the Turnpike cars or Tin Lizzies or any of the boat rides. They have a steering wheel. It is not what keeps you on course, but you feel a responsibility to use the wheel anyway. Voting is just the same. Maybe your personal vote does nothing for you, but it could help someone else. Maybe your vote doesn't keep the country on course, but it should still provide a sense of responsibility. I waited late in life to vote and I regret it. Whether my vote makes a difference or not, there are people who LITERALLY died so I could vote. I owe it to them.
Im cut off brother. Im here but my mind is cut off.

Assuming I had a choice whether top hop on that ride I wouldnt get on the ride. That way I wouldnt have the responsibility of steering that wheel. If I was forced to vote Id erase my name my ss and dissapear. Im perfectly fine being stupid and watching this bs ass rah rah garbage from where Im at. Its entertaining for me.

If the president was with the people he would be like me and you but he she aint. They live on the top and eat off the bottom you better believe it.

You want to keep the country on course then lets rely on kindness. Not fear and war. And you do this by teaching the new wave of children. But instead you make money off them. You let the schools and tv raise your kids telling them about wars and garbage and push them into this crooked fkd up garbage of lying mother****rs and reward them for stuff that makes no sense.

You have them stand up hand on the heart saying the pledge. You instill it in them young. You take away who they are and instead you tell them who they are. You want to steer that ride in the right direction then start being honest with yourself and them. Because its way of course you better believe it and it aint getting better. And people like you and everyone know this. This garbage your seeing is a sales pitch. Your getting sold my man. The truth is your all living a lie. Thats the reality of things.
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Im cut off brother. Im here but my mind is cut off.

Assuming I had a choice whether top hop on that ride I wouldnt get on the ride. That way I wouldnt have the responsibility of steering that wheel. If I was forced to vote Id erase my name my ss and dissapear. Im perfectly fine being stupid and watching this bs ass rah rah garbage from where Im at. Its entertaining for me.

If the president was with the people he would be like me and you but he she aint. They live on the top and eat off the bottom you better believe it.

You want to keep the country on course then lets rely on kindness. Not fear and war. And you do this by teaching the new wave of children. But instead you make money off them. You let the schools and tv raise your kids telling them about wars and garbage and push them into this crooked fkd up garbage of lying mother****rs and reward them for stuff that makes no sense.

You have them stand up hand on the heart saying the pledge. You instill it in them young. You take away who they are and instead you tell them who they are. You want to steer that ride in the right direction then start being honest with yourself and them. Because its way of course you better believe it and it aint getting better. And people like you and everyone know this. This garbage your seeing is a sales pitch. Your getting sold my man. The truth is your all living a lie. Thats the reality of things.
Maybe I am being sold a line, but I still get to decide which salesman I prefer to buy from.

You cannot rely on Kindness to get shit done...at least not the dirty work. Bad guys don't give up information because you said "please". I do know this... The kid that can kick everybody's ass two or three at a time on the playground is not concerned about every little piss ant punk jacking with him. Obama has made us a joke and Hillary is the punchline. Trump will (hopefully) reform our military and when we are ALLOWED to kick everyone's ass two and three countries at a time, the little piss ants will sit the f*** down and shut up. If they don't then they may just have to take a beating. Keep in mind, we could have an ability through technology, to fight an entire war from a desk and drastically reduce the odds of someone losing a son or daughter in battle.
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Maybe I am being sold a line, but I still get to decide which salesman I prefer to buy from.

You cannot rely on Kindness to get shit done...at least not the dirty work. Bad guys don't give up information because you said "please". I do know this... The kid that can kick everybody's ass two or three at a time on the playground is not concerned about every little piss ant punk jacking with him. Obama has made us a joke and Hillary is the punchline. Trump will (hopefully) reform our military and when we are ALLOWED to kick everyone's ass two and three countries at a time, the little piss ants will sit the f*** down and shut up. If they don't then they may just have to take a beating. Keep in mind, we could have an ability through technology, to fight an entire war from a desk and drastically reduce the odds of someone losing a son or daughter in battle.
it dont matter brother. If your by your tv turn on cnn. Theres a blond with a blue shirt on sitting next to a guy. Their talking about clinton vs trump. Theres 6 people and 3 on each side. Check out the blond witha shitload of make up and blue shirt on. Shes favoring trump. That chic is 100% trans you better believe it. Especially when camera zooms out shes bigger than the dude next to her. Not a big deal but why cant cnn just say shes trans
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Trash can is a nice touch.
Not so sure that's a trash can, I assumed it was a barf receptacle.
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it dont matter brother. If your by your tv turn on cnn. Theres a blond with a blue shirt on sitting next to a guy. Their talking about clinton vs trump. Theres 6 people and 3 on each side. Check out the blond witha shitload of make up and blue shirt on. Shes favoring trump. That chic is 100% trans you better believe it. Especially when camera zooms out shes bigger than the dude next to her. Not a big deal but why cant cnn just say shes trans
You are correct. You are cut off.
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I'm guessing they're not suing because they feel like they were treated fairly.

According to a USA Today investigation, he's been involved in 3500 lawsuits in the last 30 years, about half and half where he's the plaintiff or he's the defendant. I understand he's got his fingers in a lot of different ventures, but dayum...that's a lot.




No it is not, maybe 50 years ago before every stubbed toe was a lawsuit, but today, that's mild, gotta figger how many man hours it takes to make his super large projects, how many trades, and the hundreds of guys in each trade to get it done on time and ahead of schedule/cheaper......shit happens, and if there is anyway in HELL they can drag down the BIG guy by adding his name/operation/corporation to the suit in search of $$$$ damn right they will.....follow the MONEY!!!!!

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Hillary Clinton will win the debates, but Trump will "win" the debates.

The media will declare her the victor when they end. The people in this country who are glued to politics and know policy will think she won.

Then the polls will roll in showing the great unwashed masses think Trump won, and the above people will once again be incredulous and clueless as to how Trump does it.

Basically just like all the GOP debates.
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I had to bail out of this thread last night because it felt weird to be in what was beginning to feel like an intelligent discussion with Geodon.
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Hillary Clinton will win the debates, but Trump will "win" the debates.

The media will declare her the victor when they end. The people in this country who are glued to politics and know policy will think she won.

Then the polls will roll in showing the great unwashed masses think Trump won, and the above people will once again be incredulous and clueless as to how Trump does it.

Basically just like all the GOP debates.
Kinda thin on the charts and graphs this election Will.
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Kinda thin on the charts and graphs this election Will.
Don't encourage him.
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Kinda thin on the charts and graphs this election Will.
Don't make him go all Ross Perot on yo' ass. Just don't.
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