Medicare

[mrvette]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

I'm glad the furthest you and individuals who think like that, will ever get is an angry, bitter old men on the Internet.

YOU are part of the problem, and so it's over for the country....

guys thinking like YOU will be shot first, guaranfreekingTEE it....

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by mrvette

YOU are part of the problem, and so it's over for the country....

guys thinking like YOU will be shot first, guaranfreekingTEE it....

Just make sure you don't miss, because there's no second chances guaranfreekingTEED.

[mrvette]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

It gives me great pleasure to expose phonies, liars and cowards.

I have respect for those who speak theirs minds openly.

Let mrvette speak for himself and you speak for yourself.

Cheers

So you think somehow my posts are racist?? bullshit, just who is going to be affected the most by my proposed mass firings in the .gov?? the total elimination of massive welfare programs?? the firing of ineffective do nothing administrators, the stopping of overpaid .gov pensions?? the killing off of all those double dipper paychecks??

I would BET it cuts more white folks out than any minority.....

I would repeal every ONE of them Kennedy sympathy bills....all the 60's social welfare crap.....it was stupid at the outset, and I was dead set against it then and I knew full well what was going to happen, and sure enough, almost 1/2 a century later, the only thing that has saved our asses is the transistor, the single most important invention of all the last 60 years....

think about it....

and now that the effects of the transistor have basically been distilled through modern society and the slowdown has happened, just where IS that growth supposed to come from, that the Progressives think for a second we can pay for that debt those 60's bullshit programs created???

even YOU Chas can see the gist of my argument, if not, you dumber than you sound....

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by mrvette

So you think somehow my posts are racist?? bullshit, just who is going to be affected the most by my proposed mass firings in the .gov?? the total elimination of massive welfare programs?? the firing of ineffective do nothing administrators, the stopping of overpaid .gov pensions?? the killing off of all those double dipper paychecks??

I would BET it cuts more white folks out than any minority.....

I would repeal every ONE of them Kennedy sympathy bills....all the 60's social welfare crap.....it was stupid at the outset, and I was dead set against it then and I knew full well what was going to happen, and sure enough, almost 1/2 a century later, the only thing that has saved our asses is the transistor, the single most important invention of all the last 60 years....

think about it....

and now that the effects of the transistor have basically been distilled through modern society and the slowdown has happened, just where IS that growth supposed to come from, that the Progressives think for a second we can pay for that debt those 60's bullshit programs created???

even YOU Chas can see the gist of my argument, if not, you dumber than you sound....

No .... if you read what I said, was you speak your mind.

And if you've been paying attention, 75% of the country isn't minorities.

It's Medicare ... dude ... who the hell do you think is on Medicare?

Think!

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by VITE1

Medicare was originally designed to help the MINORITY of people who did not have defined HC programs in retirement.

Originally Posted by ChasC5

... that was more than 25 years into the making, wasn’t created for Minorities.

You do realize that VITE never said anything about minorities in terms of race, religion, creed, etc., right? Nobody said it was created for minorities. He said it was created for THE minority (as in not the majority) like it has become.

Did you actually manage to twist that into something racial in that head of yours??

[LATB]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

Well … if you have eyes or ears, you’ll see and hear that 75% of the Country isn’t a Minority; and if you look up Medicare’s origin you’ll also see the President Johnson’s Social Security Act of 1965, that was more than 25 years into the making, wasn’t created for Minorities.

Try again.

don't need to try again.

re read my post...re read VITE's post...

and read the post below.

again...you see everything through "colored" lenses.

sadly.

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

You do realize that VITE never said anything about minorities in terms of race, religion, creed, etc., right? Nobody said it was created for minorities. He said it was created for THE minority (as in not the majority) like it has become.

Did you actually manage to twist that into something racial in that head of yours??

[VITE1]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

Now we're getting to the true meaning of this argument. I predict the closer we get to election day, the more honest people will become. Something we've clearly seen over the last couple years.

You are aware is was not saying "Minorities" but "Minority". The small percentage of working Americans who did not have a defined HC program for retirement.

Medicare has become a full blown revenue sucking machine that has failed to reduce cost, prevented the free market from producing more Doctors as needed and prevented meaningfull HC reform due to the unholy partnership of Government, HC providers and Big Business.

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by VITE1

You are aware is was not saying "Minorities" but "Minority". The small percentage of working Americans who did not have a defined HC program for retirement.

Medicare has become a full blown revenue sucking machine that has failed to reduce cost, prevented the free market from producing more Doctors as needed and prevented meaningfull HC reform due to the unholy partnership of Government, HC providers and Big Business.

Let’s just see what the 75% + against the Ryan Plan have to say.

Like the GOP has told all of us before last November Election, we need to lesion to the people.

Or has that motto changed now?

[LATB]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

Let’s just see what the 75% + against the Ryan Plan have to say.

Like the GOP has told all of us before last November Election, we need to lesion to the people.

Or has that motto changed now?

care to address the challenges to your race baiting posts...as called out by several in this thread?

can you see the difference between minority and minorities?

[Chris Fowler]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

Let’s just see what the 75% + against the Ryan Plan have to say.

Like the GOP has told all of us before last November Election, we need to lesion to the people.

Or has that motto changed now?

I thought we had to pass the bill before we could find out what's in it?

Yes...that comment was just as pointless as yours.

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by LarsAtTheBeach

care to address the challenges to your race baiting posts...as called out by several in this thread?

Come on Chas... you can do it. Man up. Live up to your own statement...

It gives me great pleasure to expose phonies, liars and cowards.

I have respect for those who speak theirs minds openly.

Go ahead and admit that yet again you tried to make a racial thread out of one that was absolutely ZERO percent race based.

[VITE1]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

Let’s just see what the 75% + against the Ryan Plan have to say.

Like the GOP has told all of us before last November Election, we need to lesion to the people.

Or has that motto changed now?

What a moronic statement. We have a 79 Trillion dollar unfunded liability stairing us in the face and you are spouting off about those against the plan.

What will America do to fix it or make the pain less? What ?

Plus Medicare is a prefect example of why Government must stay out of Social engineering. The concept was very benevolent, the execution was pure politics and has driven us into a massive hole.

[ChasC5]

Hospital Insurance (also known as Part A)
If You Are 65 or Older

Most people 65 or older are eligible for Medicare hospital insurance (Part A) based on their own—or their spouse's— employment. You are eligible at 65 if you:

- Receive Social Security or railroad retirement benefits;
- Are not getting Social Security or railroad retirement benefits, but you have worked long enough to be eligible for them;
- Would be entitled to Social Security benefits based on your spouse's (or divorced spouse's) work record, and that spouse is at least 62 (your spouse does not have to apply for benefits in order for you to be eligible based on your spouse's work) ;or
- Worked long enough in a federal, state, or local government job to be insured for Medicare.

If You Are Under 65

Before age 65, you are eligible for Medicare hospital insurance if you:

- Get Social Security disability benefits and have amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (Lou Gehrig's) disease; or
- Have been a Social Security disability beneficiary for 24 months; or
- Have worked long enough in a federal, state, or local government job and you meet the requirements of the Social Security disability program.

If you receive a disability annuity from the Railroad Retirement Board, you will be eligible for hospital insurance after a waiting period. (Contact your railroad retirement office for details.)


Yea ... that's a small minority ...
Yea ... I can see where minorities would be a majority ...

Take your pick ...

[LATB]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

Yea ... that's a small minority ...
Yea ... I can see where minorities would be a majority ...

Take your pick ...

either you are clueless...or too cowardly to admit you were race baiting.

what part of this do you not get?

Originally Posted by VITE1

Medicare was originally designed to help the MINORITY of people who did not have defined HC programs in retirement.

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by LarsAtTheBeach

either you are clueless...or too cowardly to admit you were race baiting.

what part of this do you not get?

Originally Posted by VITE1

Medicare was originally designed to help the MINORITY of people who did not have defined HC programs in retirement.

Well guess what ... this ain't 1964.

Hummm … looking a little emotional; am I pulling your string?

Don’t tell me it’s that time of the month … again.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

Well guess what ... this ain't 1964.

Hummm … looking a little emotional; am I pulling your string?

Don’t tell me it’s that time of the month … again.

no prob here.

just was pointing out...like a few others did, that the post you made the "race/minority" assumption, was...in fact not about that at all.

it was about the origional intent...using the phrase "minority of people", to describe those who did not have long term health care.

it appeard as though, you took that phrase out of context and put "coloring" on it...

of course, I...and others could be mistaken. you may be the smartest man in the room...and we may just have missed the racial undertone to the OP and the post you quoted (VITE1).

anything is possible.

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by LarsAtTheBeach

no prob here.

just was pointing out...like a few others did, that the post you made the "race/minority" assumption, was...in fact not about that at all.

it was about the origional intent...using the phrase "minority of people", to describe those who did not have long term health care.

it appeard as though, you took that phrase out of context and put "coloring" on it...

of course, I...and others could be mistaken. you may be the smartest man in the room...and we may just have missed the racial undertone to the OP and the post you quoted (VITE1).

anything is possible.

You have to be smart enough to know; anything that is a benefit to Minorities will soon be under attack.

The main reason why I know for sure Medicare will not end is because it affect far more.

[VITE1]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

Well guess what ... this ain't 1964.

Hummm … looking a little emotional; am I pulling your string?

Don’t tell me it’s that time of the month … again.

The problem is 79 Trillion in unfunded liability. It ether has to be addressed and many will suffer or it can be ignored and all will suffer.

Secondly the point I was trying to make is once you let the government manage anything it gets out of control simply because they want more control.

Medicare is about government power more than HC. It has been proven to be more costly and less efficient than the free market alternative that were available but destroyed by Medicare.

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by VITE1

The problem is 79 Trillion in unfunded liability. It ether has to be addressed and many will suffer or it can be ignored and all will suffer.

Secondly the point I was trying to make is once you let the government manage anything it gets out of control simply because they want more control.

Medicare is about government power more than HC. It has been proven to be more costly and less efficient than the free market alternative that were available but destroyed by Medicare.

You may want to check with someone who is on Medicare first, before you speak for them.

[Chris Fowler]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

You may want to check with someone who is on Medicare first, before you speak for them.

Trying to find where he spoke for them in what you quoted...