Ms. Maxy and the Entitlement Mentality

[jaxgator]

YHGTBSM!

Americans are mindless robots under capitalism - YouTube

An awesome response.

A Response to Americans Are Mindless Robots Under Capitalism - YouTube

[jaxgator]

Originally Posted by TxAg

Holy crap dude lays the smack down on the entitlement whore.

Didn't he though? Awesome rebuttal. Unfortunately, she won't understand a lick of what he said.

We ought to take up a collection to have her dumbass shipped to Africa.

[mrvette]

YGTBFSM......NO one is THAT stupid....eh??

BUT, having said that, methinks for some years now, that she did have one point, that is having a price to LAND itself, LAND has always been here, it is essentially free, like the Native Americans way before anyone else, they had to concept of ownership of a chunk of land.....and I happen to agree about that.....

the change I would make is to eliminate the concept of LAND value, as totally separate and distinct from improvements to the land.....clearing work, plumbing, utilities, buildings/construction, fences ... all that has value in that it COST to do it....

but to say some 1/4 acre has value to be financed at a bank?? no, THAT part is in fact correct to what she says....maybe the ONLY damn thing she be correct on, but to be totally honest, she has a point on that one....

[wicked_c6]

At 3:40 she starts talking about how her ancestors in Africa didn't have to buy land, or pay rent, and how they built their own houses. I almost <coffee spewed> when she said they had electricity there in ancient times...

[TabuIsMe]

Originally Posted by wicked_c6

At 3:40 she starts talking about how her ancestors in Africa didn't have to buy land, or pay rent, and how they built their own houses. I almost <coffee spewed> when she said they had electricity there in ancient times...

I couldn't get past the 2:00 minute mark..

[TabuIsMe]

Originally Posted by TxAg

"Comment Pending Approval! "

So she's filtering the comments.

Her next video is going to be outrage that people need to be drug tested for welfare.

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by TabuIsMe

I couldn't get past the 2:00 minute mark..

I didn't even get past 00:00.01

I saw the title and the preview picture and knew that if I watched I would want to punch my computer.

[jaxgator]

Originally Posted by TxAg

If you suffer thru it then watch the response your reaction will be something along the lines of:

It was worth the suffering just to watch the awesomeness of the response.

[kender]

I always enjoy getting linky love from like minded folks....about the land value thing. Land is property, property is a measure of the fruits of your labor. When you acquire the fruits of your labor by utilizing the resources around you (in modern time by earning money and buying things, back in the day by growing and catching your food and cutting down trees to build your house) they become your property. That property is yours to use as you see fit until it wears out or you sell or trade it for something you want more. When you truly own property you never have to pay to keep it. With real property that no longer applies. Property taxes mean you cannot own real property, you simply rent the right from the government, once you pay the bank for the property you have bought, for the rights of ownership, such as equity and tax advantages. Until property taxes are repealed and the government no longer has the ability to take property you own free and clear because of delinquent taxes we no longer actually own property.

[jaxgator]

Originally Posted by kender

I always enjoy getting linky love from like minded folks....about the land value thing. Land is property, property is a measure of the fruits of your labor. When you acquire the fruits of your labor by utilizing the resources around you (in modern time by earning money and buying things, back in the day by growing and catching your food and cutting down trees to build your house) they become your property. That property is yours to use as you see fit until it wears out or you sell or trade it for something you want more. When you truly own property you never have to pay to keep it. With real property that no longer applies. Property taxes mean you cannot own real property, you simply rent the right from the government, once you pay the bank for the property you have bought, for the rights of ownership, such as equity and tax advantages. Until property taxes are repealed and the government no longer has the ability to take property you own free and clear because of delinquent taxes we no longer actually own property.

So, you're the guy that posted the video response? If so, that was awesome dude!

[TabuIsMe]

Originally Posted by jaxgator

So, you're the guy that posted the video response? If so, that was awesome dude!

I sent him a link on youtube to the forums.

[jaxgator]

Originally Posted by TabuIsMe

I sent him a link on youtube to the forums.

Ah, I wondered how he found out about this thread. Thanks dear.

Originally Posted by TxAg

Man you laid the epic smackdown on the brain dead, entitlement chick. Well played sir!

Would love to have you hang out here as well. Your input and insight would be well received.

Couldn't agree more with both of your statements.

[mrvette]

Originally Posted by kender

I always enjoy getting linky love from like minded folks....about the land value thing. Land is property, property is a measure of the fruits of your labor. When you acquire the fruits of your labor by utilizing the resources around you (in modern time by earning money and buying things, back in the day by growing and catching your food and cutting down trees to build your house) they become your property. That property is yours to use as you see fit until it wears out or you sell or trade it for something you want more. When you truly own property you never have to pay to keep it. With real property that no longer applies. Property taxes mean you cannot own real property, you simply rent the right from the government, once you pay the bank for the property you have bought, for the rights of ownership, such as equity and tax advantages. Until property taxes are repealed and the government no longer has the ability to take property you own free and clear because of delinquent taxes we no longer actually own property.

Look, we pay prop taxes, which is a form of 'occupancy tax'....we pay for infrastructure which is totally agree do, someone had to do the jobs to get it improved to the point of occupancy....fine....NO disagreement.....MY trick is to be paying some totally fictitious VALUE on a typical bank loan....

LAND has no intrinsic value, that entire part of our 'culture' needs be reconsidered.....

Consider the loss of this motel/housing unit vacation place on the shores of the Chesapeake Bay decades ago, Point Lookout....the land receded into the bay during some storm.....that land disappeared......

would it be fair to still demand someone pay for the lost land's VALUE??

NO, lost the rental income, built assets, and human developed value, surely...but the LAND?? no....

IMO, that entire concept just earns excessive interest for banks.....

This country was won from kings a couple centuries ago, in screwed up old Europe they existed at the sufferance of some 'king'....so bought land he ripped off in some war or other.....

now re read me previous post, maybe my position becomes more clear.....

[LATB]

Originally Posted by kender

I always enjoy getting linky love from like minded folks....about the land value thing. Land is property, property is a measure of the fruits of your labor. When you acquire the fruits of your labor by utilizing the resources around you (in modern time by earning money and buying things, back in the day by growing and catching your food and cutting down trees to build your house) they become your property. That property is yours to use as you see fit until it wears out or you sell or trade it for something you want more. When you truly own property you never have to pay to keep it. With real property that no longer applies. Property taxes mean you cannot own real property, you simply rent the right from the government, once you pay the bank for the property you have bought, for the rights of ownership, such as equity and tax advantages. Until property taxes are repealed and the government no longer has the ability to take property you own free and clear because of delinquent taxes we no longer actually own property.

You rock dude

[DAB]

Originally Posted by kender

I always enjoy getting linky love from like minded folks....about the land value thing. Land is property, property is a measure of the fruits of your labor. When you acquire the fruits of your labor by utilizing the resources around you (in modern time by earning money and buying things, back in the day by growing and catching your food and cutting down trees to build your house) they become your property. That property is yours to use as you see fit until it wears out or you sell or trade it for something you want more. When you truly own property you never have to pay to keep it. With real property that no longer applies. Property taxes mean you cannot own real property, you simply rent the right from the government, once you pay the bank for the property you have bought, for the rights of ownership, such as equity and tax advantages. Until property taxes are repealed and the government no longer has the ability to take property you own free and clear because of delinquent taxes we no longer actually own property.

awesome, hope you stick around here.

[Sea Six]

Originally Posted by kender

I always enjoy getting linky love from like minded folks....about the land value thing. Land is property, property is a measure of the fruits of your labor. When you acquire the fruits of your labor by utilizing the resources around you (in modern time by earning money and buying things, back in the day by growing and catching your food and cutting down trees to build your house) they become your property. That property is yours to use as you see fit until it wears out or you sell or trade it for something you want more. When you truly own property you never have to pay to keep it. With real property that no longer applies. Property taxes mean you cannot own real property, you simply rent the right from the government, once you pay the bank for the property you have bought, for the rights of ownership, such as equity and tax advantages. Until property taxes are repealed and the government no longer has the ability to take property you own free and clear because of delinquent taxes we no longer actually own property.

Oh, AWESOME!! Thanks for coming over here, dude! That was a great response to that stupid video she posted. You rock!

[R.Zaragoza]

Originally Posted by kender

I always enjoy getting linky love from like minded folks....about the land value thing. Land is property, property is a measure of the fruits of your labor. When you acquire the fruits of your labor by utilizing the resources around you (in modern time by earning money and buying things, back in the day by growing and catching your food and cutting down trees to build your house) they become your property. That property is yours to use as you see fit until it wears out or you sell or trade it for something you want more. When you truly own property you never have to pay to keep it. With real property that no longer applies. Property taxes mean you cannot own real property, you simply rent the right from the government, once you pay the bank for the property you have bought, for the rights of ownership, such as equity and tax advantages. Until property taxes are repealed and the government no longer has the ability to take property you own free and clear because of delinquent taxes we no longer actually own property.

Very well said.

[mrvette]

[quote=TxAg;407648]Land has a value. Just because you don't like it that way doesn't take that fact away.

Originally Posted by mrvette

Consider the loss of this motel/housing unit vacation place on the shores of the Chesapeake Bay decades ago, Point Lookout....the land receded into the bay during some storm.....that land disappeared......

would it be fair to still demand someone pay for the lost land's VALUE??
If someone had it appraised and insured, yes.



Yes. Riddle me this, how do you propose to replace the lost land?



You're entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.



Are you trying to equate a king owning land = property owners today?



Going to have to go with "no" on that one.

It's a carryover from the olde tyme kings of Europe....it is a payoff of excess interest for some bogus 'title' one never really has....MOST jurisdictions for example have no personal property tax, Northern Va. does, and it's high......now if you pay taxes on your house....OR worse yet pay the taxes on rental property you occupy through rents.....you get to pay for land at twice the rate you pay for your house.....

lets suppose like that guy a block over, have a total loss house fire.....

think your property taxes go down one buck?? the tax is on the LAND USE, and the land itself based upon that supposed USE.....

paying interest on TOP of that is a phony pony......think of it like the Native Americans used to.....

[Chris Fowler]

Originally Posted by mrvette

think your property taxes go down one buck?? the tax is on the LAND USE, and the land itself based upon that supposed USE.....

In Texas the taxes would go down, given that it's based on appraised value of the property and permanent structures on that property...

[LATB]

Originally Posted by mrvette

lets suppose like that guy a block over, have a total loss house fire.....

think your property taxes go down one buck?? the tax is on the LAND USE, and the land itself based upon that supposed USE.....

actually...

yes, it will.

buy a property with improvements...remove improvements...

property assessed value will go down, as will the property tax liability.